thanks... he didnt say she was yb or vanilla..he said the full white belly, the longer than usual striping on her back and the high blushing with the alien head patterning are characteristics of these other snakes, and others. I don't mean to offend any pros out there, i only meant to state that it wasn't myself trying to identify her. she kinda does look norm in the pics but if you could see her, especially beside a normal, the difference is apparent. my friend said if she is normal, she's the most unusual one he's ever seen. thanks for the input everyone!