Ball Bids Opinions?

[JKPCONSTRICTORS]

Honestly, if breeders shipped the snakes directly to the winners, rather than the amateurs at Ballbids getting their hands on them, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. I still wouldn't support the site or their practices, but it would be better for the animals.

[joepythons]

Honestly, if breeders shipped the snakes directly to the winners, rather than the amateurs at Ballbids getting their hands on them, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. I still wouldn't support the site or their practices, but it would be better for the animals.

Ok so just for example purpose here.A person wins one of the auctions for a ivory ball python female for $5.89 ok .Now the "breeder" drop ships it for ballbids to you in there name(ballbids) not his because its a secret of who is supplying them.Now the winner receives the ivory and without learning proper Quarintine practice(since ballbids doesnt know either they cant pass on the info) he puts it in his rack with his other 15 snakes.Then sadly 7 days later his whole ball python collection is dead because come to find out the ivory came from a breeder that has recently found out his collection is infected with IBD.So since the winner had no idea who the snake was coming from but if he did he would have avoided them all together.Who do you blame? Of course ballbids tells him you are SOL because it didnt come from us.Then since you have no clue who the snake came from your just SOL.So is this still ok to buy bids and possibly be this person?

[JKPCONSTRICTORS]

Ok so just for example purpose here.A person wins one of the auctions for a ivory ball python female for $5.89 ok .Now the "breeder" drop ships it for ballbids to you in there name(ballbids) not his because its a secret of who is supplying them.Now the winner receives the ivory and without learning proper Quarintine practice(since ballbids doesnt know either they cant pass on the info) he puts it in his rack with his other 15 snakes.Then sadly 7 days later his whole ball python collection is dead because come to find out the ivory came from a breeder that has recently found out his collection is infected with IBD.So since the winner had no idea who the snake was coming from but if he did he would have avoided them all together.Who do you blame? Of course ballbids tells him you are SOL because it didnt come from us.Then since you have no clue who the snake came from your just SOL.So is this still ok to buy bids and possibly be this person?

If an individual buys a snake and doesn't quarantine, it's their fault for what happens, it's not all on the seller. I don't support Ballbids, I'd never buy from them, and I would hope that nobody else who takes their hobby seriously would either. It doesn't matter though, we could forever run in circles with these type of arguments. I've seen "het for pastel" balls being sold at reptile shows. I also doubt all the flippers that set up tables properly quarantine their animals. The responsibility should ultimately fall into the hands of the person who purchases the animal. If they want to go cheap and buy from a shady business/person, they're taking a risk. Also, anybody who buys an animal should know how to properly take care of it before they make the purchase. I get tired of hearing people whine and blame others because they didn't want to spend any time doing research first. If somebody doesn't understand basic husbandry and quarantine practices, they have no business owning 15 snakes, as you use in your example.

[joepythons]

If an individual buys a snake and doesn't quarantine, it's their fault for what happens, it's not all on the seller. I don't support Ballbids, I'd never buy from them, and I would hope that nobody else who takes their hobby seriously would either. It doesn't matter though, we could forever run in circles with these type of arguments. I've seen "het for pastel" balls being sold at reptile shows. I also doubt all the flippers that set up tables properly quarantine their animals. The responsibility should ultimately fall into the hands of the person who purchases the animal. If they want to go cheap and buy from a shady business/person, they're taking a risk. Also, anybody who buys an animal should know how to properly take care of it before they make the purchase. I get tired of hearing people whine and blame others because they didn't want to spend any time doing research first. If somebody doesn't understand basic husbandry and quarantine practices, they have no business owning 15 snakes, as you use in your example.

Well if you buy from someone that does know proper husbandry skills at least they can answer any questions a newbie might have.If they ask these diots on ballbids they dont have a clue .I have seen the het for pastels to at shows and its sad.

[JKPCONSTRICTORS]

Well if you buy from someone that does know proper husbandry skills at least they can answer any questions a newbie might have.If they ask these diots on ballbids they dont have a clue .I have seen the het for pastels to at shows and its sad.

I agree. A person will always be better off buying from a knowledgeable and reputable breeder, but they also need to know how to take care of the animal when they get it home. And we all know Ballbids isn't the only shady business in operation. One of the reasons we see so many misidentified and sickly reptiles on Craigslist is because too many people buy animals they don't know anything about. No matter who the seller is, the person who purchases the animal is equally responsible for its well-being.