In the nude! what do you think?

[RoseyReps]

If looks aren't important, then why the need to say "I like x"?

My statement wasn't one that was formed from this thread alone. I browse many forums, and this isn't the first time I've seen a conversation such as this pop up. In the rest of them, the general consensus was that curvy = good, everything else = bad.

Since we're being honest, here's my take on things. If you've got kickin' curves, awesome. Guys are going to be all over you. If you don't, well, too bad, so sad. Regardless of what people are trying to say, looks are important. It's a proven scientific fact. We're genetically hardwired to find certain shapes attractive. Unfortunately, those that aren't lucky enough to get the genes get kicked to the curb.

This imo, is a perfect example of how NOT to live. I'm a small girl. 5'3, 105lbs. By no means "curvy". I used to have a low self esteem like I am assuming you do (I apologize if my assumption is incorrect, but your demeanor in your posts have been that of someone who doesn't find worth in themselves) This thread didn't "devolve" into what men like, it's just men can't sit there and say how the media makes them feel about themselves as a women (you know..since they aren't) And most women aren't going to sit there and say what they think is attractive in another women, because most of them aren't attracted to women..So everyone's comments have been pretty on par with a thread such as this thus far. (I cannot speak for the other forums from which you say you've read similar threads obviously)

So guys on a forum like curvy women. So what? Being a tiny person myself, I never felt I was "kicked to the curb" because I wasn't large breasted and plump bootied. There are PLENTY of men out there, good men, who are attracted to every shape. I think the reasoning behind most men coming out in a thread like this saying how they like curves has nothing to do with everything else being sub par. But more about them proving to the OP that not all men like the super skinny chicks like the media likes to show.

I'll be 100% honest here, I did have a low self esteem with my first husband. He told me every day how I was lucky to have him, and how no one else would be interested in me. After hearing that for 4 years you start to believe it. When I finally woke up and left him, I did a lot of soul searching. (mind you, mostly in the form of bar hopping and excessive partying..) Anyways, I realized there where a whole slew of men who would be happy to have me. (no I don't mean like THAT...I mean guys interested in me and dating etc ) My self esteem started to come back up and I felt great. Then I met my husband Bill, and from that moment on my self esteem was much higher. I felt good about myself. I discussed it with him, and I went and got breast implants a while after having my second kiddo. It was a mommy's day present to myself, and though Bill didn't want me to do it, he knew it would make me feel that much better about myself. I didn't do it because I thought guys would like it more, I did it because it's what I wanted. It's what I wanted to see when I looked in the mirror, and I really don't give a hoot what others think. I didn't go crazy, and people who didn't know me pre op are super surprised when/if they find out. Does this make me a bad person and fake? Well, not to me. It might to you, or people in general, but honestly, I don't care. I am who I am, and as long as I'm happy with what I see in the mirror, I will not let anyone bring me down. Never again.

If you are unhappy with yourself, fix it. Don't let other people tell you what men want, in the end, who cares what men want. I care what I want, and I found a man who wants that too. Woot! When you are happy with yourself, you shine. Whether you're 100lbs, or 300lbs. You SHINE. Confidence and self esteem are worth more than anything. After all, how can you expect to love another, when you can't even love yourself? (I know I stole that line from somewhere, but I can't remember...so...whoops)

And Raptor, this whole reply wasn't meant directly at you. It's just your comments about devolving, and getting kicked to the curb metaphorically, reminded me so much of something I would have said 6 years ago...
Yes, looks are important. To a degree. They are the first impression. That doesn't mean that one type looks better than another, that is all based entirely on opinion. Looks are the cover of the book, they get your attention, but what's on the inside is what keeps your gaze and gets you to keep turning pages.

Sorry for the baggage dump LOL *packs up*