Ball Bids Opinions?

[Don]

They did something recently that caused all members to have to re-register - more server issues or an attack. I'm sure. When the users did, their bid packs were lost and they had to request to have them put back. Very shoddy operation. They never can seem to get their stuff together.

Every once in a while, a person affiliated with Ballbids will pop into the forums (one of the few who hasn't been banned for rule infractions). They keep demanding facts and even though many people tell them the facts they ignore them and keep demanding facts. It is actually quite funny. Their main form of discussion with the forums is to insult, call people stupid and unethical. Sounds to me like they are the ones with the issues. I'm also not sure how acting like that improves their image or attracts more business. They could completely ignore the entire BP community, but they just love popping in and stirring up crap. I don't think they are long term, or they wouldn't act so desperate. The community will be a better place when they are gone. It is not good public relations for us that ball pythons have become associated with penny auctions.

[Herp_Herp_hooray]

Everyone looses. Except the winner and seller! If your cool with that by all means!!!


Jason Rossi
www.rossireptiles.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rossi-...app_2309869772

[joepythons]

Whats that saying? Oh its a fool and there money are soon parted. If you fall for Zach's scam YOUR the biggest fool ever.Old Zach's an idiot AKA mark byers AKA 1000 other names point blank.

[Gloryhound]

It costs $0.50 for a $0.01 bid. So if in the end the snake sells for $10.00 they actually make $500.00 on the sell of the animal. The actual bid price means nothing. The only thing that matters is are you the last person bidding. At the end of the auction when like 10 seconds remain if a bid comes in it resets the clock to like 15 seconds to allow someone else to bid again until everyone runs out of bids. Everyone who bought bids but didn't win are out of the money they spent on the bids. You can obviously see where the values they say things sell at are significantly deflated to give everyone a warm and fuzzy.

[owl_scales88]

So I was looking on my Facebook and noticed an ad for ball python bidding called Ball Bids. I started looking at the Facebook thinking what a great idea they had to make some cash while enjoying the hobby. It’s a business where you can bid on low to high end morphs for a fraction of the cost. Now as an (experienced) newbie in the hobby this is music to my ears. But the research I conducted came back all negative. The site and Facebook page kind of looks sketchy like maybe it could be a scam/ not legit. I found some evidence of possible illegal business actions. I don't know anything about the business side of this hobby but it seems like it isn't being done right from what I read. I saw a few other forums stating that the owners might not be taking care of the animals as well as they should. Possibly not worried about their well being and just in it for the dollar type deal.

So to the point,

What’s everyone’s opinion on BallBids.com? Has anyone here won a bid there? If so, how was the experience and how was the snake’s condition?

My opinion:
I don't feel there is enough evidence to incriminate them as a hurtful business in the reptile world. I WILL NOT be placing any bids until I am sure that these people are legit, and are in it for the hobby game instead of the money side. If I found or heard any proof of this business being neglectful to their animals or a scam, I would be more than happy to assist in bringing down the site. I hope there are some people here that dealt with the owners and gives some good reviews. But Bad are excepted just as well.

[owl_scales88]

I've watched a couple of auctions on this site. They have 2 clocks that run parallel to eachother. One is the so-called "end" time of the auction, the other is a countdown time for biddin. If the countdown reaches zero the auction will end - regardless of the "end" time (supposedly). Now , I watched an auction tonight where the "end" time keeps resetting to a later time. Also , everytime someone clicks a bid, it adds 10 seconds to the countdown. This means the auction is perpetual. Many financial crooks do a "penny" scam, wherein they handle large transactions in a heavy volume. They skim a penny here and a nickel here off of each account, funneling their skimmed cash into a different account (operated by themselves). In this manner they can skim thousands or even millions of dollars, a "penny" at a time. Now with ball bids, if the clock never runs out, people bidding are still buying bids to use on the site. All the while some of the "people" bidding could just be internal "bot" in their system. So , they are practically stealing peoples money while their own computers are bidding for them.
But I've seen someone win a waterdish from them. But I think this win of "dry goods" is just to keep them under the radar for now. I've not heard of anyone winning an actual snake from there. This is a true scam- and they are taking in countless amount of account info from these hapless folks ( one of them is my girlfriend). I recommend that no one use this site. And if anyone would to help me expose and destroy them, we should work on it now. lunastrix88@yahoo.com is my email.

[wilomn]

I've watched a couple of auctions on this site. They have 2 clocks that run parallel to eachother. One is the so-called "end" time of the auction, the other is a countdown time for biddin. If the countdown reaches zero the auction will end - regardless of the "end" time (supposedly). Now , I watched an auction tonight where the "end" time keeps resetting to a later time. Also , everytime someone clicks a bid, it adds 10 seconds to the countdown. This means the auction is perpetual. Many financial crooks do a "penny" scam, wherein they handle large transactions in a heavy volume. They skim a penny here and a nickel here off of each account, funneling their skimmed cash into a different account (operated by themselves). In this manner they can skim thousands or even millions of dollars, a "penny" at a time. Now with ball bids, if the clock never runs out, people bidding are still buying bids to use on the site. All the while some of the "people" bidding could just be internal "bot" in their system. So , they are practically stealing peoples money while their own computers are bidding for them.
But I've seen someone win a waterdish from them. But I think this win of "dry goods" is just to keep them under the radar for now. I've not heard of anyone winning an actual snake from there. This is a true scam- and they are taking in countless amount of account info from these hapless folks ( one of them is my girlfriend). I recommend that no one use this site. And if anyone would to help me expose and destroy them, we should work on it now. lunastrix88@yahoo.com is my email.

Perhaps you should read the threads here, on fauna, and a bunch of other sites. If you DID that, you'd know a lot more than you appear to.

Also, had your girlfriend won that auction, would you still feel as you do now? Sour grapes eh? You took a chance and lost despite hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on multiple sites totally busting these scumbag lying sacks of crap. Maybe there's a lesson there for you.

[joepythons]

I've watched a couple of auctions on this site. They have 2 clocks that run parallel to eachother. One is the so-called "end" time of the auction, the other is a countdown time for biddin. If the countdown reaches zero the auction will end - regardless of the "end" time (supposedly). Now , I watched an auction tonight where the "end" time keeps resetting to a later time. Also , everytime someone clicks a bid, it adds 10 seconds to the countdown. This means the auction is perpetual. Many financial crooks do a "penny" scam, wherein they handle large transactions in a heavy volume. They skim a penny here and a nickel here off of each account, funneling their skimmed cash into a different account (operated by themselves). In this manner they can skim thousands or even millions of dollars, a "penny" at a time. Now with ball bids, if the clock never runs out, people bidding are still buying bids to use on the site. All the while some of the "people" bidding could just be internal "bot" in their system. So , they are practically stealing peoples money while their own computers are bidding for them.
But I've seen someone win a waterdish from them. But I think this win of "dry goods" is just to keep them under the radar for now. I've not heard of anyone winning an actual snake from there. This is a true scam- and they are taking in countless amount of account info from these hapless folks ( one of them is my girlfriend). I recommend that no one use this site. And if anyone would to help me expose and destroy them, we should work on it now. lunastrix88@yahoo.com is my email.

Hmm i think i smell a troll .

[stickyalvinroll]

it is not a scam if you win, you win simple. but most people dont. it cost money to bid, yes. but would you say the stock market is a scam? would you say the gold rush was a scam? it is just a risk that youll have to take just like in any business. dont hate on it. there has been a lot of different winners with youtube unboxings. all animals look healthy. penny auctions are super hard to win.

[wilomn]

it is not a scam if you win, you win simple. but most people dont. it cost money to bid, yes. but would you say the stock market is a scam? would you say the gold rush was a scam? it is just a risk that youll have to take just like in any business. dont hate on it. there has been a lot of different winners with youtube unboxings. all animals look healthy. penny auctions are super hard to win.

So then, assuming that you would, doing business with these people of low morals and no compunctions against bald faced lying would be no problem for you?