Genetic Quality Over Lesser Quality Multiple Gene Animals

[rabernet]

Quality is first for me EVERY time. I don't believe in buying sub-quality animals and try to breed them into quality. Save your money and shop the snake, not the deal. My cinnie and lesser took me over a year to find when I decided I wanted to add those genes to my collection. I was super picky and knew exactly what qualities I wanted.

Quality in = quality out. Sub par in = sub par out. You do get what you pay for.

I still sold NICE lemon pastel males for $200 this year, because my buyers wanted the quality that I was producing. They knew what an "average" pastel sells for, and chose to buy from me instead. When I delivered some lemon pastels to a customer at a show last year and we were out in the common area looking at them, multiple people stopped and asked my buyer "where did you get those, because those are the nicest pastels I've seen and I didn't see any like them in the show".

I will agree - even with the best that you can find - you need to also breed them to the best you can find and not "dirty" them up with just any normal or average critter.

[digizure]

I'm a new breeder and I'm curious to how you "judge" quality? What do you look for? Thanks! I'll try and post pictures of my new collection and I'm curious to see what you guys think.

[RoseyReps]

I'm a new breeder and I'm curious to how you "judge" quality? What do you look for? Thanks! I'll try and post pictures of my new collection and I'm curious to see what you guys think.

I'm new to everything, but in my opinion...
There is no cure-all for quality. It depends heavily on the individual morph, and what you are looking to do with your breeding. Some of my personal opinions (and this varies GREATLY depending on whom you ask)
Lessers I like to be clean patterned (no brown in the alien heads)
If a morph has a tendency for dorsal stripe, the more full the better (IE Mojos, lessers, butters, black pastels etc)
As an opposite, I also look for black back (no pattern on the dorsal) Different project, but still a good quality imo
Overall brightness or darkness
Flames
blushing
It really comes down to what you are looking to do. For instance, my dark project, I want a nice deep black black pastel. One that won't blush out much as an adult. So I would steer clear of babies that are already showing signs of blushing. And preferably buy from someone who has produced in the past so I can get an example of their adults.
High contrast is another thing people look at, as well as speckling.

In the end, it comes down to what you are looking to produce. What I may think is a sub par looking bumblebee, another might think is perfect. It is a matter fully based on opinion with most morphs.

So the question really should be... What makes YOU go "Whoa"? Now go buy that, or buy pairs that have similar qualities and work towards it

[don15681]

Quality is first for me EVERY time. I don't believe in buying sub-quality animals and try to breed them into quality. Save your money and shop the snake, not the deal. My cinnie and lesser took me over a year to find when I decided I wanted to add those genes to my collection. I was super picky and knew exactly what qualities I wanted.

Quality in = quality out. Sub par in = sub par out. You do get what you pay for.

I still sold NICE lemon pastel males for $200 this year, because my buyers wanted the quality that I was producing. They knew what an "average" pastel sells for, and chose to buy from me instead. When I delivered some lemon pastels to a customer at a show last year and we were out in the common area looking at them, multiple people stopped and asked my buyer "where did you get those, because those are the nicest pastels I've seen and I didn't see any like them in the show".

I will agree - even with the best that you can find - you need to also breed them to the best you can find and not "dirty" them up with just any normal or average critter.

x 2 couldn't of said it any better than this!!!