Let's talk about using NIX for mites.

[Skiploder]

I use Reptile Relief as a preventative in my snake room because it is safe to use on and around the snakes. PAM is not safe to use on snakes and it scares the heck out of me. However, I do keep a couple of cans around just in case. I've read a lot about the NIX treatment, but have not used it. I'm not sure why there is such a strong following for PAM as I've read of problems from people using it. It may be great at killing mites, but it can also kill your snakes if you are not very careful. Reptile Relief seems like a much safer product to me. Heck, even the NIX treatment sounds like a safer product to me.

I think in the end, you have to do what you feel is best for your collection. For some people, that is PAM for others it is a different treatment.

Don, I think it's cute that people think PAM is "safe" or specially formulated for safe use around reptiles, but that other permethrin products are not.

I read Jamie's piece advocating the use of of PAM and it's explanation of why PAM is somehow so special that other permethrin products of the same concentration cannot be used in the same fashion. I gave a printout of that post to my friend Vic's wife who is a chemist for the Ortho Division of Chevron.

I won't go into her explanation of how there is essentially little to no difference (depending on the brand) between treatments and how legally Pro-Products by virtue of their instructions and the semantics involved in the EPA and USDA approval processes can make the claims no one else can.

The semantics of that approval, however, are paper thin reasoning for me to pay the premium for PAM. When dealing with prophylactically treating new arrivals, I opt to use a more attainable (both in terms of purchasing and price) product and have had zero issues with it.

This argument has been covered on this forum and elsewhere. Anyone who wishes to investigate for themselves should find more than enough information to make a true informed choice.

[el8ch]

I have only had mites come in on one new addition and she was treated with a mild NIX solution. Worked like a charm.

The only time I've had mites, I couldn't get PAM in time due to being in canada.

There are Canadian Suppliers of PAM, if you need some let me know and I can have it shipped to you or if you are in the GTA just come and pick it up.

[angllady2]

Unfortunately for me Skip, you cannot search just the word NIX here, I've tried. The few threads that do come up when you add the word mite or treatment seem to be more of what I was asking. Someone wanting to know if it is safe, and two or three people saying no, while two or three say yes.

That is why I was hoping to hear from someone with long term experience with it.

I can see both sides of the argument, cost versus safety. That's why I am curious I suppose.

Gale

[interloc]

I have only had mites come in on one new addition and she was treated with a mild NIX solution. Worked like a charm.



There are Canadian Suppliers of PAM, if you need some let me know and I can have it shipped to you or if you are in the GTA just come and pick it up.

Thanks! But since NIX worked so well for me, I will probly use it again. Let's hope I don't have to tho. Lol.

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[Skiploder]

Unfortunately for me Skip, you cannot search just the word NIX here, I've tried. The few threads that do come up when you add the word mite or treatment seem to be more of what I was asking. Someone wanting to know if it is safe, and two or three people saying no, while two or three say yes.

That is why I was hoping to hear from someone with long term experience with it.

I can see both sides of the argument, cost versus safety. That's why I am curious I suppose.

Gale

What was the name of that book by Mark Twain?

The Adventures of Tom __________

Pluralize that in a search.

[el8ch]

What was the name of that book by Mark Twain?

The Adventures of Tom __________

Pluralize that in a search.

Thanks for that info, never knew that.

[MrLang]

Skiploder is legendary. That is all.

[interloc]

You always have to take skiploaders comments as sarcastic. Either that or he becomes rather impolite.

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[TheSnakeEye]

I am not condoning the use of NIX instead of PAM but I do know several large ball python guys who use Nix on snakes instead of Reptile Relief and other mite killer. They dilute a little in some water and spray every new snake that comes in. Never had any problems, they also still use PAM on the tubs.

[Skiploder]

You always have to take skiploaders comments as sarcastic. Either that or he becomes rather impolite.

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