Reptile show let down.

[Andrew21]

Yeah, anery's go for like $25, and they were selling the granites for 30. (if they were in fact granites, they should've been 75) That's like 2 genes for the price of one! too bad it wasn't on my list. Maybe i'll find someone selling a whiteout as a snow. (snows are 25, whiteouts are probably a hundred. I haven't ever seen one for sale)

[Raptor]

I got my charcoal for $100, but she was also an adult and a proven breeder. This was back in 2009, though.

[Andrew21]

Yeah, they cost a lot more as adults!

[Raptor]

And females tend to go for more since you can drop a male in with multiple females.

[gaiaeagle]

My boyfriend and I went to the Kansas City Reptile show this past time looking to buy some very specific types of ball pythons to start our breeding collection. One of the types we were looking for was a pair of Het Pieds to be able to breed some pieds. We found a table with some female het pieds in our price range and started talking to breeder that told me that buying two het pieds would not produce a pied, that we needed a full pied to breed with a het pied to produce pieds. We talked at lengths about this, saying that we thought pied was just a recessive gene and there was nothing complicated about the gene. He was very passionate in telling me that there were more complicated genetics involved and pied was the only one of the recessive genes that was.

Now, Mike and I have done some really extensive research in ball python morphs before we went to the show, so we had a good idea on what we wanted and what they would produce when breed together. As far as our research has produced, piedbald is a simple recessive gene and breeding two hets together will give us about a 1:4 ratio of pieds to normals (some of which will be het for pied). I have a bachelor's degree in a science related field, so have had some college level genetics classes. Genetics is not that difficult when looking at one gene.

Now if there is something more complicated about pied gene that is not mentioned in the morphs pages, I would really be interested in learning about it.

We ended up getting a male mojave, two normal females, and a male blood python to breed with the female blood (eventually).

[Mrl249]

It's Oklahoma. What do you expect, Daytona? Not going to happen.

http://www.corncalc.com/combos.jsp I would say that it'd be fairly hard to remember all those, admittedly, as breeders they should know what they're selling.

Have to agree I lived in Oklahoma for 2 years... Nothin there but cows, dirt, and brick town.

[LadyWraith]

I agree with what someone else said about lack of knowledge on their part possibly being to your advantage. That show was pretty disappointing though. It was a lot of the same stuff over and over. And supplies that can be bought at any big box store. The big table at the front that the KC breeder had was pretty cool. And there was a girl there with a ton of healthy looking Leos that seemed pretty passionate and knowledgeable about them. She took a few out and got to handle them and I'll say, I'm kinda hooked now. Thinking about getting one from her next time there's a show. Did you hear about the 8 foot yellow conda getting stolen there? Seriously, who walks out of a one door room packed with people carrying an 8 foot snake? Or even in a container large enough without being noticed?

[gaiaeagle]

Did you hear about the 8 foot yellow conda getting stolen there? Seriously, who walks out of a one door room packed with people carrying an 8 foot snake? Or even in a container large enough without being noticed?

How? WTF? How does someone walk out with an 8 foot snake and no one notices? The only think that I could say is that everyone thought that either the person bought the snake or that it was their own snake. I went to Tulsa show a few years ago. I bought my Dumerils boa there. I really wasn't impressed. I don't know if it has gotten any better.

[heatfreakk3]

The yellow anaconda was stolen sometime during the evening when the show was already closed and all vendors were gone. The doors should of been locked, and I believe they usually are.. Not sure how the person got in there. Along with the anaconda, a red footed tortoise, and quite a bit of other smaller snakes were stolen. It's a shame..

[Arcapello]

I went to the Tulsa show, too! At the Tulsa Select Hotel (August 4-5)?
I looked up all of the vendors that I knew were going to be there, and found out which types of reptiles they sold (I was looking specifically for a BP), and read reviews about them, so before I even went I knew who I wanted to buy from.
I can believe that some of the vendors had no idea what they were doing. You always get a few of those. Hope you find your blizzard and charcoal.