Breeding Weight Help

[don15681]

I think getting her up to 1200 grams and then start a cool down. after cooling for 2 weeks if she's still eating, place a male with her. don't rush for 600 grams. she already has a good weight to her length by the looks of her in that pic. breeding season is long. if she continues to feed thru it, and by the time she ovulates she should be over 1500 grams. if you rush and slam her with food, this can throw her off feed. and with the age that everyone talks about. she old enough to produce follicles or she's not. I have eggs in my incubator from females that won't be 2 until sometime this month. and the one clutch is due around the 12 of aug. with 7 good eggs. she had good weight to support having eggs, if you try and breed a female that's not muture, what's going to happen? nothing, but maybe her retaining sperm and you have to be aware of that for the next season.

[DavidMundy]

This is how I figure it...

If she's a 2010 then she's 2 possibly 2 1/2 years old and 892 grams.
So she's gained 446 grams per year if she's 2, even less if she's more than 2.
If she continues to eat at this pace in 1 year from now she will be 1330ish grams.
Will she make weight this season, even late season?
not if she continues to gain weight at the pace she has.

Now if she's an early to mid 2011 then it's game on, feed her well and she'll probably be ready by December/January depending on what month she was born.

I just got her and on her card her date of birth reads august 9th 2011. So she isn't even a year old and already at 900 grams.

[Annarose15]

I just got her and on her card her date of birth reads august 9th 2011. So she isn't even a year old and already at 900 grams.

I wouldn't even consider breeding her until she is at least 18 months old, which wouldn't be until mid-February, and that's IF she keeps eating and growing.

[mustang91302]

i have a female cinni that has put on 400 grams in 4 1/2 months

[DavidMundy]

I wouldn't even consider breeding her until she is at least 18 months old, which wouldn't be until mid-February, and that's IF she keeps eating and growing.

Why do you prefer 18 months? I know why most people prefer 1500 grams or more but I was under the impression that age doesn't have an effect on breeding whatsoever, only weight. Can you explain for me?

[Zombie]

Why do you prefer 18 months? I know why most people prefer 1500 grams or more but I was under the impression that age doesn't have an effect on breeding whatsoever, only weight. Can you explain for me?

Weight has an effect on number of eggs and health of the female. She still has to be old enough to be sexually mature, that's usually 18mos or 2nd winter. Some may go before that, some not till later...

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[Annarose15]

Weight has an effect on number of eggs and health of the female. She still has to be old enough to be sexually mature, that's usually 18mos or 2nd winter. Some may go before that, some not till later...

Exactly. I won't subject a female to the stress of a breeder male in her enclosure until I think she at least has a chance of being sexually mature.

[DavidMundy]

Weight has an effect on number of eggs and health of the female. She still has to be old enough to be sexually mature, that's usually 18mos or 2nd winter. Some may go before that, some not till later...

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Exactly. I won't subject a female to the stress of a breeder male in her enclosure until I think she at least has a chance of being sexually mature.

Gotcha Thanks guys. I have no problem waiting was I was just wondering why most people talk about the weight rather than the age.

[Zombie]

Gotcha Thanks guys. I have no problem waiting was I was just wondering why most people talk about the weight rather than the age.

It usually takes them that long to get to breeding weight. Some female will breed sooner than that, you just don't know which ones till you try. You can try putting a male to her and seeing if she wags her tail or scents or anything like that, then you'll know. But a good breeder male will lock anything and a lock isn't always a sign that she's ready...

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[SlitherinSisters]

I know I read in your picture thread that she is less than a year old. In my opinion she's not going to breed for you this year whether or not you get another 600 grams on her. From what I understand 18 months is about the youngest you can get them to go. I'm sure there have been younger females, and I know there have been plenty of females that were much older than that the first time they took.