What is happening? (DUW lots of pictures)

[Gloryhound]

This CH male has been bred twice.


The first time was with this female in 2010. Her on the eggs.


The 8 babies had some weird patterns, but nothing else of significant note.



To be honest I held back one female and sold the rest as normals thinking the project was going to be a silly recessive that wouldn't be worth anything.

The female I did hold back, unfortunately did not survive our move from Ohio to Michigan. We suspect the sun was hitting her cage during the 6 hour trip through some gap in the cover.

That resulted in me restarting the project this year, and I bred him to this female.


The results were much more pronounced and even color was involved. So far only 5 of the 10 eggs are out and all of them have a weird color and pattern.



a couple beside a normal (actually Het Caramel PH Orange Ghost, but as close to a baby normal as I currently have.)



Any ideas as to what is going on? It looks like the pattern is either dominate or co-dom, but the color didn't come out until the second breeding making me wonder if the female in the second breeding could be het for something or I just totally skipped over the color in the first breeding by accident and it is co-dom or dom. Both cases make me wonder if it is a double gene or a single gene that affects color and pattern.

Opinions welcome.

[jsmorphs2]

Looks like he's passing on his reduced pattern and since it's showing up right away it's either co-dom or dominant. It would be great to add his genes to a lesser/butter/enchi project.

[Simple Man]

I'm thinking genetic reduced/banded. Color is going to vary from female to female but that pattern passing on is pretty awesome. Good luck!

Regards,

B

[TXpythons]

great reduced pattern, looks very similar to my banded normal.

[Andybill]

Looks like he's passing on his reduced pattern and since it's showing up right away it's either co-dom or dominant. It would be great to add his genes to a lesser/butter/enchi project.

Yeah a great way to clean up those patterns and make some really sweet reduced snakes for breeding! I would definitely plug him into enchi and butter/lesser... But I love reduced pattern anything so I would plug him into a lot of projects just to see where it goes... Very cool! That dude is hot too!