Lesser & Black question

[foobar]

Hi there

I've got two questions. First, sorry for the quality. It's not possible to make other pics, I would if I could!

1) In person, the dorsal stripes and dots look green-yellowish and glow. Does ist look like a pure Lesser to you? It might have mixed in something unknown.





2) What do you think about this one? Worth a dinker project?



Thanks,
Max

[satomi325]

1) It looks like a lesser from a top view. Can you get photos of the side patterns? From the top, it does look a little different than usual. Almost like a lesser cinny/BP

2) What is it suppose to be? A black pastel?

[Jyson]

Definitely one smoking hot lesser. The other looks like a granite to me, either way it's a cool looking animal.

[sho220]

Nice Lesser...and the other one is definitely dinker worthy...

[h00blah]

The top one almost looks like a lesser cinny. It's unique. If it were a female and I were in the market for one, I might consider it.

That 2nd one looks almost like a black pastel. The head/neck area looks odd though. Is it listed as a black pastel? If so, I'd say yes it is.. If it's being listed as a "dinker", then yes - it is most definitely worth dinking.

[MrLang]

Looks like a nice lesser to me - this is the type I like and I always keep my eye out for snakes like that. I don't see anything else there.

The second one looks like SOMETHIN' - black pastels have the granitey alien heads like that...

[Capray]

top- sulphur mojave?? hmm?
bottom- black pastel

[DemmBalls]

First one looks like a Lesser Black pastel to me. Second one looks Black Pastel to me. Do you have any history on them? Sire and Dams?

[MrLang]

First one looks like a Lesser Black pastel to me. Second one looks Black Pastel to me. Do you have any history on them? Sire and Dams?

This is what I thought, but I haven't seen a lesser black pastel that light in color and also with absolutely no spots in the bubbles. Usually the bubbles connect in long strings with black pastels and cinny lessers, which this one does have a little bit of, though...

[foobar]

First, thanks to all for your answers.

1) Sadly, I may not take anymore pictures. But the side patterns are dissolving and have no or almost no spots inside the pattern. Some of the animals searched on google for "cinnamon lesser" have the same side patterns. But not so the color. It's way more light yellowish with a tone of very light lemon. It's a female yearling. Here is a pic of her sister, their sire looks more or less like her:



This one here is mine, I might also take her sister pictured in the first post

2) It's a CH from Ghana, possible Granit. Those independent dorsal "rings" tease me.