i actually just talked to a bunch of breeders about getting pieds. Most breeders had hatchling males at 700 to 750 and females at 800 to 900. Older ones were a bit higher males 750 to 800 and females all the way up to 1200. you got one hell of a good deal, lowest i even came across was a male 50% white for 650 at 300 grams.