Narrow minded or am I asking too much?

[wolfy-hound]

The fact of the matter is... you guys decide that you want to do research and use OUR(the public) animals to further your research, have it pointed out how it could negatively affect the hobby, AFTER you speak condescendingly of the person who (rightfully) refused you access to HIS animals.

To stretch the insulting to anyone who would refuse you the access to their animals, other "researchers" decide to chime in to call people ignorant and unintelligent because we(the general public) just "don't understand" how research works. You ignore the FACT that the AR groups have already used research projects against us to get laws passed. You further ignored people who said the process would stress their animals out for no benefit to them. You also ignore the fact that the original argument of "Well we should know what's in the animals because what if..." is invalidated by the FACT that the studies have already been done. You continue to insinuate that anyone who doesn't allow you to do whatever you like or dares to say it's a bad idea is simply too stupid to understand that research is ALWAYS a great thing.

This is surely to path to getting a ton of assistance in your work.

Again, people have pointed out WHY it wouldn't be helpful, WHY it would be harmful to the hobby, but your arguments are that it's research for research's sake so it's noble and great and we peons just wouldn't ever understand you bigheaded smart sciency type folks. I'll remind you, you have no idea what sort of people are here, posting as lovers of herps, not as whatever life has shaped them into. Some of the folks on here would probably surprise you with what they do in life, what they've learned and what they know. You don't automatically gain knowledge or wisdom with age, but you surely gain a lot of experience when you're out in life.

Folks on here have been surpassingly polite about "No thanks, I wouldn't be interested either" and beyond patient in attempting to explain "This could be a very bad idea for the hobby". Myself... after listening to the 'scientists' on this thread, I have no desire to accommodate ANY study or research regarding my animals ever. If this is how scientists think of 'us, the general public', then I have no desire to assist them in any way.