What is this?

[gcanibe]

That Normal Female cames from USA that i buy in NARBC Texas (5 years ago) she was in a plastic tumb with aprox 500 more balls, and the killer bee is a keepers that i got from a Pastel Female cames from Pro Exotics and a friend of mine here in Mexico Bumble Bee.

Did she took both sperm? (killer bee and Orange Ghost)

The killer bee is 100% Het Pied and the normal?

Is this just a extrange mutation?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Did she took both sperm? (killer bee and Orange Ghost)

Looks like it since you have normal looking offsprings as well, if the Killerbee was the only sire you would not have produced any normal looking offsprings.

The killer bee is 100% Het Pied and the normal?

Both of your breeders are 100% Het pied.

[gcanibe]

Looks like it since you have normal looking offsprings as well, if the Killerbee was the only sire you would not have produced any normal looking offsprings.

She was paired with the orange ghost too i think she took both sperms

[PiedPeddler]

The patterned areas do not look Pied to me. The Pied gene not only creates the white, but it also messes with both the color and pattern of the patterned areas. Those areas typically have a light dorsal stripe bordered by dark dorsal stripes on each side, or they may have a chaotic pattern, or a mixture of light dorsal stripe and chaotic pattern. You can take a picture of the patterned area of a Pied with no white included and you can tell the pattern is tweaked. When you add Pastel, the pattern usually tweaks even more. Pieds typically have neither orderly arranged “alien heads” on their sides nor black backs.

This specimen has “alien head” pattern on the sides its neck. It also has nicely arranged “alien heads” and black-back pattern near its tail. To me, those areas look like a nice black-back Pastel, not Piebald.

I’d say repeat the pairing again. You might have something new. You could also get yourself a Pied male to breed to your female and see if you get any Pieds.

Really sorry for you that it didn't hatch. It looks like it would have been beautiful.

-Paul

[DemmBalls]

Pastel Pied was my first thought! Ashame it died. I would repeat next year for sure!

[PweEzy]

The patterned areas do not look Pied to me. The Pied gene not only creates the white, but it also messes with both the color and pattern of the patterned areas. Those areas typically have a light dorsal stripe bordered by dark dorsal stripes on each side, or they may have a chaotic pattern, or a mixture of light dorsal stripe and chaotic pattern. You can take a picture of the patterned area of a Pied with no white included and you can tell the pattern is tweaked. When you add Pastel, the pattern usually tweaks even more. Pieds typically have neither orderly arranged “alien heads” on their sides nor black backs.

This specimen has “alien head” pattern on the sides its neck. It also has nicely arranged “alien heads” and black-back pattern near its tail. To me, those areas look like a nice black-back Pastel, not Piebald.

I’d say repeat the pairing again. You might have something new. You could also get yourself a Pied male to breed to your female and see if you get any Pieds.

Really sorry for you that it didn't hatch. It looks like it would have been beautiful.

-Paul

I agree that it definitely doesn't have your typical pied pattern in the non white areas, but I'd also breed the same pair next year to find out for sure. Sorry for your loss!