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    Questions about Morphs

    I am going to purchase a Butter Spider male if I breed it to a Lesser other than the lottery winning BEL what would come out of that clutch?

    Spider 50% Het lessor or 50% Het Butter or normal 50% Het?
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    Lessers/Butters are not recessive. So, no, you wouldn't end up with Het Butter/Lesser. They either are or they aren't that morph

    For exact calculations on that clutch (as I don't breed and I'm not familiar with those lovely squares), I'll leave that to those who can give you exact information.
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    Re: Questions about Morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostball29 View Post
    I am going to purchase a Butter Spider male if I breed it to a Lesser other than the lottery winning BEL what would come out of that clutch?

    Spider 50% Het lessor or 50% Het Butter or normal 50% Het?


    Het is only for recessive genes not showing the morph and neither of these are recessive. Also butters and lessers are the same morph to most people, if not they are very similar and compatible for bels.

    Here is what world of balls says about that pairing.


    12.5%|1/8|Normal
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Spider
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser
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    Go to worldofballpythons.com
    They have a genetics calculator you can play around with.


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    Re: Questions about Morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by mikel81 View Post
    Het is only for recessive genes not showing the morph and neither of these are recessive. Also butters and lessers are the same morph to most people, if not they are very similar and compatible for bels.

    Here is what world of balls says about that pairing.


    12.5%|1/8|Normal
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Spider
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser

    You will be able to get a butter lesser spider
    Male:
    Butterbee
    Female:
    Percent Fraction Traits
    12.5% 1/8 Butter, Lesserbee
    12.5% 1/8 Blue Eye'd Leucistic
    12.5% 1/8 Lesserbee
    12.5% 1/8 Lesser Platinum
    12.5% 1/8 Butterbee
    12.5% 1/8 Butter
    12.5% 1/8 Spider
    12.5% 1/8 Normal

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    Re: Questions about Morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by mikel81 View Post
    Het is only for recessive genes not showing the morph and neither of these are recessive. Also butters and lessers are the same morph to most people, if not they are very similar and compatible for bels.

    Here is what world of balls says about that pairing.


    12.5%|1/8|Normal
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Spider
    12.5%|1/8|Lesser Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Bee
    12.5%|1/8|Butter Lesser
    You mean there is no butter lesser spider??? I know theres not really a way to tell w/out black light to see the pattern but a butter spider to lesser should possibly produce a butter lesser spider right?
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    There will be Butter Lesser Spider (BEL Spider).

    But most people try not to breed Butter/Lesser together due to their ability to produce deformed bug eyed BELs.

    http://fire-ballreptiles.com/images/...terfemale1.JPG


    Personally, I'm doing a mojave/lesser pairing to achieve the BEL.
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    Re: Questions about Morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    You mean there is no butter lesser spider??? I know theres not really a way to tell w/out black light to see the pattern but a butter spider to lesser should possibly produce a butter lesser spider right?
    I think that last 'butter lesser' is supposed to say 'butter lesser spider' as it is listed twice on the table.

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    Re: Questions about Morphs

    Here is what I would recommend regardless of the pairings you wish to accomplish in the future: Research, research, research, anything from understanding genetics to breeding, to morphs with issues etc.
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