I would also go with normals. The second one has some nice flames. If it were a yellowbelly clutch, I'd look at it more closely.

It's really impossible to tell what anything is when it's in its egg skin. The woma-lesser X pastel clutch I recently produced had what looked to be two lessers, and turned out to be a lesser and a lesser-woma possible pastel, lol.

Shedding makes all the difference.