Reticulated in comparison to Burms

[Riv]

Hey guys, Im planning to breed ball pythons as my staple, but I have a female burm as well, and im considering *attempting* to get a split clutch of burmballs. I know the odds are stacked against me, but I figure I might as well try. But I just had an idea. Why not replace the male burm in the equasion with a male Reticulated? Then If I got any babies at all, Id either get burmballs, bat eaters, or both. Im fairly confident Id be able to move bat eaters, but even if I couldnt right away I can easily build a few racks and keep them until I can find homes for them.

Now, I did a lot of reading on burms and I know them as a species pretty well from research and experience, but I know very close to nothing about Reticulated pythons. This guy would not only be part of that breeding project but also a family pet. So I was wondering if you guys could tell me how they differ in temperment? I heard they can be a little fiestier. They get longer, but not heavier, and if raised well can be just as sweet as a well raised burm. But again thats all things I found roaming the internet. Thought Id ask people who dealt with them on a regular basis for reliable opinions. Also has anyone ever dealt with bateaters? I can hardly find anything about them on the internet. Size temperment etc. Thanks in advance!

[heathers*bps]

The reason you do not find much about them is because it is extremely hard to produce bateaters. It takes a lot of work to get a lock, and even if you do, it can take numerous seasons for the female to become gravid, and even higher stakes of the eggs being viable. Yes it has been done, but it does take a lot of work and time to achieve an outcome.

Retics are more flighty than burms. While burms tend to move slow and pretty much chill while out of their enclosures, retics move a lot more, and faster. All of our retics try to get up in the ceiling when they are out. And while hand taming ( or attempting to ) is almost an essential with large snakes, you occasionally get the one that will retain its attitude, no matter how much you handle it and try to "tame" it.
I have noticed that a few of our retics as soon as you open their cage door, they come flying out at you, but when you rub them with the hook and start to pull them out, they are fine.

Good luck in whatever decision you make, but just know that hybrids are a long process.

[Mike41793]

you occasionally get the one that will retain its attitude, no matter how much you handle it and try to "tame" it.
I have noticed that a few of our retics as soon as you open their cage door, they come flying out at you.

reason why i wont ever get a retic... lololol

[Rob]

reason why i wont ever get a retic... lololol

Lol that and we live in the nutmeg state.

[Mike41793]

Lol that and we live in the nutmeg state.

Theyre illegal here? Do you have a link to something that gives a list of illegal species?

It wont really apply to me bc im moving soon but im just curious.

[Meltdown Morphs]

I have a male burm, tho he is still pretty small now I had ideas of atemping to breed him to my super dwarf retic a few years down, but since the ban on interstate travel with burms that idea is bunked. I also thought that included any hybrids made with Burms? Burmballs and bateaters are condemned as well aren't they?

[Daybreaker]

I have a male burm, tho he is still pretty small now I had ideas of atemping to breed him to my super dwarf retic a few years down, but since the ban on interstate travel with burms that idea is bunked. I also thought that included any hybrids made with Burms? Burmballs and bateaters are condemned as well aren't they?

Yes, burm hybrids are included in the ban.

[Rob]

Theyre illegal here? Do you have a link to something that gives a list of illegal species?

It wont really apply to me bc im moving soon but im just curious.

Yup, don't have the link I googled it a while ago. There's a whole list of what's illegal here. Burms, retics, rocks to name a few.

[Riv]

The reason you do not find much about them is because it is extremely hard to produce bateaters. It takes a lot of work to get a lock, and even if you do, it can take numerous seasons for the female to become gravid, and even higher stakes of the eggs being viable. Yes it has been done, but it does take a lot of work and time to achieve an outcome.

Retics are more flighty than burms. While burms tend to move slow and pretty much chill while out of their enclosures, retics move a lot more, and faster. All of our retics try to get up in the ceiling when they are out. And while hand taming ( or attempting to ) is almost an essential with large snakes, you occasionally get the one that will retain its attitude, no matter how much you handle it and try to "tame" it.
I have noticed that a few of our retics as soon as you open their cage door, they come flying out at you, but when you rub them with the hook and start to pull them out, they are fine.

Good luck in whatever decision you make, but just know that hybrids are a long process.

Good to know. I knew they were different I just didnt know in what ways. And yes, I know any large snake can retain its aggression or discomfort around humans regardless of socialization. I interacted with my little girl for quite a while before bringing her home, trying to feel out whether she would be that way or not. I think I could learn to cater to a snakes personality well enough though. The thing im still confused on is the methods in which people are capable of facilitating the lock. Do you just stick the male retic and female burm together at the correct time like a normal pairing?(I would be switching the retic for the ball at first, but the theory still seems sound to me) Im still very much so in the dark as far as the actual process, and I dont want to resort to artificial insemination. That sounds like no fun XDD