Emergency, Please Help.

[liv]

PAM is a must. Check any local reptile shops, one near me carries it, and that way it's cheaper and faster than ordering online. I've also seen it at Petsmart. Wherever you get it from, get a few cans, because you're going to need to treat your entire collection as well as your new additions if they've been in the same room.

This is going to be a really frustrating few months for you if you decide to keep these guys. It might be better for your sanity (not to mention your wallet and the health of your other animals) to return them and get snakes from someone less shady.

[ReptileJenna]

Update:
Okay, I just scrubbed down all three am I cleaning like a nut. I've never cleaned this much in my life.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure the biggest girl has RI and I know she has mites. I didn't see the mites on any of the other two, but I'm sure they are there.

I kept them separate from the other snakes, but I was keeping them on the edge of my really nice reptile room because I felt guilty for the temperatures that they had to endure to get there. What an idiot I was. I always quarantine, and never have had any troubles. I became hubris.

Anyways, the two smaller ones are pretty mad at me, and I ALWAYS keep water in their cages, but I can't keep it in their cages right now since they will drench themselves overnight. One of the smaller ones I think might have RI, but she might just be hissing at me. It couldn't be because of the water in the bottom of the tub, right? It isn't a puddle, but I just washed it off after each snake got drenched with the mite stuff. It is called Mite-Off, and its the best I could find in my local stores.

[ReptileJenna]

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Update:
Okay, I just scrubbed down all three and I am cleaning like a nut. I've never cleaned this much in my life.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure the biggest girl has a respiratory infection, and I am certain she has mites. I didn't see any mites on any of the other two snakes, but I'm sure they are there.

I was sort of keeping them away from the snakes, but not like I should of been. What an idiot I was. I let them sort of enjoy the reptile room's temperatures than my strict quarantine area, because they had gone through Florida's summer hell.

Anyways, the two smaller ball pythons were pretty mad when I cleaned them.
Also, I ALWAYS keep water in their cages, but I can't keep it in their cages right now, since they will drench themselves overnight.

One of the smaller ones I think might have RI, but she might just be hissing at me. However, it sounds more like a wheeze. It couldn't be because of the water in the bottom of the tub, right? Like, they aren't coughing it out or anything making it seem like a wheeze?

There isn't a puddle in the tub, but I washed it off after each snake got drenched with the mite stuff to try to prevent any more spread of the mites.

By the way, the mite killer is called Mite-Off, and its the best I could find in my local stores.

[Homegrownscales]

If you don't return them (which sadly I would ASAP, those issues came from the breeder and I would not be happy)

Vet immediately and as quick as possible to treat the Ris immediately. I would get them all in there because you received them all together. Cultures and abos may be needed. Qt 100000% way way away from the rest of the collection. And when you get Pam I would proactively treat everyone and everything. All tanks, racks, equipment. EVERYTHING. Put it around the floor of the room, in doorways etc. this way if one does happen to travel it doesn't (hopefully) make it to another snake.


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[ReptileJenna]

I've already found a vet, and I'm planning on taking all of them tomorrow.

Would it be horrible if I just asked the breeder for my money back so I can pay for their treatment, because I'm not returning the snakes? However, I don't know how to prove mites, because as soon as I saw them I killed them as well as I could. I didn't spend the time to try to take pictures, ha ha. Anyways, I don't want to send them back to a bad breeder. He came recommended by a friend, but I'm not so confident anymore about that.

[angllady2]

You are doing the best you can, and that is good. How awful to have this happen like this. I'd be chewing that breeder a new you-know-what, even if I decided to keep them.

I cannot stress to you enough you NEED to order Provent a mite. Mites reproduce faster than anything except maybe fleas. If you see them on your snake, I promise there are thousands that are too small to see yet. I spent 6 agonizing months eradicating a mite infestation. I treated and treated the tubs, rack, floors and snakes, and about every three weeks they'd start reappearing. I finally figured out they were getting behind the baseboards in the room where the rack sits, so I started treating there as well. I finally got rid of them, I haven't seen but one in the last four months, but I still treat preventatively once a month.

The RI will for sure need vet care. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. The hardest part will be the shots, so make sure you have the vet teach you how to give them. Keep them warm and make sure you empty and bleach the water bowls daily to prevent them from re-catching the germs. It helps to have two sets of bowls, that way one can get a bleach water soak and you can put the clean ones in with the snakes.

Snakes with mites do soak a lot, so that is why they are dashing for the water bowls. It may help to only cover the bottom of the bowl with water, since you'll be changing them daily anyway. It means less to spill when they try to soak.

I wish you all the best with whatever you decide to do.

Gale

[ReptileJenna]

Darn it, this is going to be a really painful process I feel. At least it doesn't affect mammals, otherwise I'd be really in trouble, since I have lots of other furry pets.

Okay, can I use alcohol in the meantime to kill? And asking for my money back without returning the snakes isn't a bad thing with this current situation, right?

Thanks.

ADD:
I forgot to add that I'm moving to a new house soon. Can I use this opportunity to maybe get rid of the mites?

[RobNJ]

Would it be horrible if I just asked the breeder for my money back so I can pay for their treatment, because I'm not returning the snakes?

Yes it would be...your best bet is to approach him/her and see what resolution they have to offer. If none, then you can suggest one, but just asking for a refund and keeping the snakes comes off as selfish.

[Homegrownscales]

Alcohol, I'm not sure on.
Asking for your money back and keeping the snakes just won't Happen.
Perhaps a partial refund could make both parties agree.


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[ReptileJenna]

Well, I paid very, very little compared to the regular price for an adult, which should of been a big warning flag for me. It was too good to be true.

My best friend had recommended him, and I didn't hear anything bad from other reptile owners who bought from him. I thought he was just trying to find good homes to cut down his collection of normals.

However, I guess I could return the snakes... But their sick, and he is probably just going to pawn them off on someone else or not treat them. They've already probably given my group mite issues, so if I return them I'm going to end up with no snakes and mites. Then again, they are going to probably all have a RI, so that it is going to cost me more than it cost to buy them.