Could this be IBD?

[mues155]

Ok so long story short...in sept '11 I bought a 2009 1500g spider female from a guy who said she had a minimal wobble.
Well that wasnt the case at all!

I quarantined her and have never actually put her with my collection, shes just in her own room still.
Well when people talk about the spider wobble I cant relate much, my other smaller spider had such a slight one I couldnt even tell. So to see this spider freaks me out big time!

So basically she corkscrews her head and neck, her head has no problem going upside down. If I flip her over she takes a couple seconds to right herself. Shes been like this pretty much since I got her. Like shes kind of hard to watch at times.

She feeds (her striking ability isnt the best but she gets the job done), sheds, poops, drinks just fine, shes been gaining weight no problem.

I'm just worried this may me IBD? I've looked up symptons and apart from the "stargazing" like behavior she seems just fine. Or is this just how a bad spider wobble looks?
I've had her for 8 months like this, isnt IBD quite fast and fatal?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Slim]

You have a train wreck on your hands, not IBD. Sounds like she's thriving despite her issues.

[Mike41793]

Sounds like shes doing ok to me. Does she corkscrew 24/7 or just when you have her out and she gets excited?

[bad-one]

Sounds like a pretty bad spider wobble to me. Some spiders have it bad, some you hardly notice. Also, some get better or worse with age.

[mues155]

You have a train wreck on your hands, not IBD. Sounds like she's thriving despite her issues.

Yeah tell me something i dont know...
ok, so what makes you want to rule out IBD in what I've said?
MAkes me feel better that you so far you guys dont think thats what it is.

Sounds like shes doing ok to me. Does she corkscrew 24/7 or just when you have her out and she gets excited?

not really 24/7 but if shes exploring her cage for prey or feeding.

[Mike41793]

It doesnt sound like IBD to me bc i know its more common in boas and bc i thought it settled in and the snake deteriorated pretty quickly. 8 months seems like an awfully long time for her to have it. Im far from an expert on it though.
Did you contact the person you bought her from asking if theres something that you are doing differently that could be making her wobble worse? (i.e. like stressing her out more?)

[Slim]

ok, so what makes you want to rule out IBD in what I've said?

The time frame and the fact that she's a Spider. IBD would most likely have progressed to a fatal point by now. And, the symptoms you describe sound like a very bad Spider wobble.

[mues155]

It doesnt sound like IBD to me bc i know its more common in boas and bc i thought it settled in and the snake deteriorated pretty quickly. 8 months seems like an awfully long time for her to have it. Im far from an expert on it though.
Did you contact the person you bought her from asking if theres something that you are doing differently that could be making her wobble worse? (i.e. like stressing her out more?)

Oh I tried contacting him after I got her and he made himself very scarce.
typical, theres no way this snake didnt have this bad of a wobble when he owned her.

The time frame and the fact that she's a Spider. IBD would most likely have progressed to a fatal point by now. And, the symptoms you describe sound like a very bad Spider wobble.

phew, well I feel better, I've been wanting to ask this on here for a while, but i guess i was kinda scared to hear what the outcome was lol ugg..

Ok, so in your guys opinions do you think she can go with my collection on the rack?

So basically I'm stuck with a crappy spider with a wobble that whom I could never rehome.
I dont think she should ever be bred...I'm assuming wobbles are pretty genetic?
so there goes money just down the pooper.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Actually, it's possible she DIDN'T have this severe of a wobble when her former owner had her. Shipping stress can bring it out, big time. Had it happen to me--I sold a woma to someone, and by the time it arrived, it was acting just like that. He got a refund, and I got it back. Now I just make sure to note, when I sell them, that these animals can have a wobble, and can develop it at any time, just like spiders. There's nothing wrong with the animal, it's just part of the mutation.

There's nothing wrong with your spider, and her offspring are no more likely to wobble than the offspring of any other spider.

[Mike41793]

Wobbles are not genetic at all to my knowledge and i wouldnt hesitate to breed her. I wouldnt allow her to maternally incubate, but im pretty sure you have a bator anyhow.
I would not hesitate at all to move her into the rack. Also if you get a chance to, posting a video of it would really help. No matter how well you try and explain the severity of it, the wobble could be worse or better than what were picturing in our heads lol.

For comparison, is it as bad as this? Not as bad or worse?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVQmiywlaJk