Single genes are "boring"...

[M&H]

After 12 snakes, I must say that single genes are boring.

I want an enchi, but I see no point in buying a single gene enchi.
Enchi lessers, on the other hand, are awesome.

I'll never be the guy to buy a bunch of cheap female normals just to get to breeding.

I still consider all 12 snakes to be pets first.
I plan to breed when they finally get to size, but I would consider breeding to a normal female boring as well.
All my projects would be multi-gene and provide for much more interesting outcome.

Anyone share this philosophy?

Not to pick but you said you plan on breeding all twelve of your snakes. Your signature has twelve snakes listed and the first one is a normal male..... You also have a single gene Piebald and Pinstripe listed....

I completely disagree with your opinion. I could have gone out and bought a Spinner, but instead I bought an amazing female Spider and male Pinstripe. Now I can make a Spinner, as well as other combos (Pinstripe het Albinos, Pinstripes, Lemon Blasts, and Pastels) all in the same breeding cycle by breeding my one Pinstripe to all my females.

Not to bash multi gene snakes, but honestly I prefer to keep everything simple. I can make the exact combo I like without any extras that could mess with what I am trying to do. I love that I can keep things "pure" without "extras" I don't want to have. I would never breed my Pinstripe to my Albino or het albino unless I was wanting to take the project further and wanted to make a Pinstripe Albino. If I only had a Pinstripe het albino I would always have to take in consideration the albino part. I can always go back to the basics and do exactly what I want. Plus the snakes I have are exactly what I like in the morphs and would want to reproduce.

Part of the fun of breeding is making what I like. Yes I could go out and buy a Bee. However to me the fun of breeding comes from having say in it every step of the way, and not having to find what I like or accepting someone else's standards.

[Tzeentch]

Not all 12. The normal was the first one that started the craze.

By the time my Spider het Ghost is ready (next year I believe), I will probably have added another female or two. So roughy 5 males to 6 or 7 females.

I remember seeing my first bumblebee and saying "Wow, that's awesome. Too bad I'll never be able to spend $600 on a snake". Now after dropping $1200, suddenly my $450 Pastave is "cheap".

There are plenty of combos I will not buy simply so that I can produce one. My bumblebee to my pinstripe for Spinners, Spinner Blasts and Lemon Blasts.

I'm not saying that anything with double or triple genes is better than a single gene snake.

But I like the possibilities of my Silver Bullet to my Bumblebee are far lot better than my Pinstripe to my Lesser even though I really want to produce a Kingpin.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

By reading this (given you only have 12 snakes and are already bored) I am gonna say that it will not matter how many genes you will work with you will get bored anyway sooner or later...........maybe it's just not for you, maybe you need to find a less boring and more exciting hobby.

Now there is nothing wrong with working with multiple gene animals (I do) but passion is passion whether you have a normal or a signal gene animal and that's what truly missing in your case.

No criticism just food for the thought.

Boring right? http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/coral-glow/
Boring too? http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...tramelanistic/

If that's the case I can't wait to be bored

[BFE Pets]

I dont see how any true enthusist could get bored unless its just not their cup of tea. theres a lot of morphs that dont make the top of my list but normals will always be a staple with me. I love the thrill of checking a clutch pipping and cant wait to see what the morphed gene has done to the normal offspring. You can call me nuts but normals from my spider clutches always have a little different patteren than the normals from a lesser clutch. I know there isnt a true marker for het albino but my het albinos could get dumped into a box of other normals and i'm pretty sure I could pick them out. they just have that "something different look". I have 30 bp's in my stable and 12 of them are normal but everyone was carefully considered and selected to be bred with which morph to try and highlight that particular morphs attributes. Thats a huge part of the appeal for me. Thats my two cents worth.

[West Coast Jungle]

This thread is boring but hatching single gene ball pythons is not

[John1982]

Fair enough.

I meant more to say that why pick up an enchi, when you can pick up an enchi lesser.

And then bred the enchi lesser to a bumblebee instead of just a pastel.

The more genes, the more possibilities.

I do have a male lesser (single gene and awesome), but at this stage, I would not consider just a female lesser to pair him with. Hence I picked up a Pastel Majove.

Because the majority of people are in it for the love, they want to work with animals that appeal to them. Not everybody likes enchi, not everybody likes lesser, etc, etc. Also, if you're breeding for something specific(bumblebee for instance), adding genes that aren't a part of that morph will only diminish your chances of producing the desired snake.

[Royal Hijinx]

After 12 snakes, I must say that single genes are boring.

I want an enchi, but I see no point in buying a single gene enchi.
Enchi lessers, on the other hand, are awesome.

I'll never be the guy to buy a bunch of cheap female normals just to get to breeding.

I still consider all 12 snakes to be pets first.
I plan to breed when they finally get to size, but I would consider breeding to a normal female boring as well.
All my projects would be multi-gene and provide for much more interesting outcome.

Anyone share this philosophy?

Have you seen my Enchi and some of the others on here. A GOOD Enchi can be just as exciting as anything, as can a good Calico/Sugar etc, etc...

I kinda agree that if you are getting bored, this may not be your cup of tea. Appreciating the base morphs IMO is necessary. Those who strive to have the best in single gene animals will go on to produce the top tier multi gene. You have to respect where it came from.

[angllady2]

Feel free to send me that substandard boring animal to me if you can't stand it anymore. I'll do my best to deal with it for you.

Gale

[Tzeentch]

No need to keep this going, but I would like to end on this:

I am in no way bored. (I have not even started yet).
I will just never be the guy who breeds his Lesser to a normal. I see no point in hatching ONLY Lessers (yes, they are awesome in their own right.)

I will however breed my Lesser to my Pastave and have the potential to hatch Pastel BEL, BEL, Pastaves, Pastels, Lessers and even normals. If I ended up with all Lessers or Majoves, that is fine. Its the POTENTIAL that is more EXCITING.

[Tzeentch]

And the point was to see if anyone else shared the philosophy of not hatching out single genes. It was never to bash on single genes or people who want to hatch them