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    Help with restructuring my collection

    I am thinking about reducing my collection of single morphs and using the money to buy some multi gene animals. Can someone help me put a value, on a very conservative level, what I may be able to get for each one. Also, I have been thinking about going to a bigger breeder or shows and seeing if they would do trades and some cash for everything. I just want to breed some amazing multi gene pets for my family and then breed what I have to support my hobby. I think I would like to end up with 3 snakes. one 3+ gene male and two 2+ gene females. I don't mind paying extra cash on top of the trades to get a multi gene animal, but wanted to get a good idea of what I have to work with. Also how would I get the most bang for my buck, at a show, large breeder, Kingsnake.com, craigslist...other? I live in Orlando so there are 6 Repticons in Florida each year plus the Daytona Show which is the country's largest coming up in August.

    here is what I have to work with:

    Female Lesser............................550gram
    Female Orange Ghost..................150 grams
    Female Orange Ghost .................150 grams
    Female 100% het Orange Ghost....150 grams
    Female normal proven breeder(gravid at the moment)..1800 grams
    Female normal.......................... 2500 grams
    Male mojave .............................400 grams
    Male Enchi ...............................400 grams
    Male Amir line Yellow belly............300 grams
    Male Orange Ghost.....................150 grams
    Male Orange Ghost.....................150 grams
    Male 100% het Orange Ghost.......150 grams
    Male blonde pastel roven breeder..900 grams
    Tom

    0.1 Citrus Pewter
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    1.2 Lesser
    0.1 Blonde Pastel
    1.1 Het Pied
    0.1 Het Clown
    1.0 Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 IMG Yellow Belly
    0.1 Pinstripe
    1.6 Normal
    1.0 Green Tree Python
    1.0 Panther Chameleon
    1.1 Red Eye Tree Frog
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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    I just picked up two more Ball Pythons...couldn't pass up the deal.
    Female 800 gram 100% Het Pied (from Justin Kobylka)
    Male 300 Gram 100% Het ied (from BHB)

    these will be ready to breed this fall so I will keep these two until next year
    Tom

    0.1 Citrus Pewter
    1.1 Butterscotch Orange Ghost
    1.2 Lesser
    0.1 Blonde Pastel
    1.1 Het Pied
    0.1 Het Clown
    1.0 Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 IMG Yellow Belly
    0.1 Pinstripe
    1.6 Normal
    1.0 Green Tree Python
    1.0 Panther Chameleon
    1.1 Red Eye Tree Frog
    1.0 Albino Red Eye tree Frog
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    1.2 Human Children

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    Seems like the biggest mistake newbs make is ending up male heavy...2 male OG's and a 100% het male OG...
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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    Quote Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Seems like the biggest mistake newbs make is ending up male heavy...2 male OG's and a 100% het male OG...
    All the Orange Ghosts are from the same clutch. They are all 6 weeks old. I wouldn't by 3 males of the same morph. I'm not an idiot
    Tom

    0.1 Citrus Pewter
    1.1 Butterscotch Orange Ghost
    1.2 Lesser
    0.1 Blonde Pastel
    1.1 Het Pied
    0.1 Het Clown
    1.0 Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 IMG Yellow Belly
    0.1 Pinstripe
    1.6 Normal
    1.0 Green Tree Python
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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    Quote Originally Posted by MeinDraco View Post
    All the Orange Ghosts are from the same clutch. They are all 6 weeks old. I wouldn't by 3 males of the same morph. I'm not an idiot
    haha...figured that was the case...you're probably not going to get much in trade...big breeders are going to want wholesale value. Best bet would be to sell off what you don't want to keep and then hit up Kingsnake or local shows to pick up what you want...
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    Always by your side...
    That cat's something I can't explain...

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    sell yb male, het ghost male, one of the ghost males, female het ghost. thats what i would do. could probably get a super pastel with the money.

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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    Quote Originally Posted by hypersomniacjoo View Post
    sell yb male, het ghost male, one of the ghost males, female het ghost. thats what i would do. could probably get a super pastel with the money.
    Thanks, I actually got rid of all the ghosts except one female. I picked up a female citrus pewter. I am getting rid of the pastel male, and maybe the yellow belly. you think I should keep one of the ghost males?
    Tom

    0.1 Citrus Pewter
    1.1 Butterscotch Orange Ghost
    1.2 Lesser
    0.1 Blonde Pastel
    1.1 Het Pied
    0.1 Het Clown
    1.0 Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 IMG Yellow Belly
    0.1 Pinstripe
    1.6 Normal
    1.0 Green Tree Python
    1.0 Panther Chameleon
    1.1 Red Eye Tree Frog
    1.0 Albino Red Eye tree Frog
    1.0 Waxy Monkey Frog
    1.2 Human Children

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    Here is what I would do with your list. I'd keep the nicer ghost female, lesser female and breeder sized normal females. I'd maybe keep the Enchi and Mojave males. I'd sell everything else. Visual recessive (ghost) and codom (lesser) females are always good to have and never underestimate the value of big normal females (they can give you more back in offspring than you are likely to get in cash). I'd breed the enchi male to one or both of the big females and hold back a female enchi or two and then sell that male along with the offspring. Keep the mojave if you'd like to make a blue-eyed lucy paired with the lesser and sell it once you have your BEL.

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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    Quote Originally Posted by MeinDraco View Post
    Thanks, I actually got rid of all the ghosts except one female. I picked up a female citrus pewter. I am getting rid of the pastel male, and maybe the yellow belly. you think I should keep one of the ghost males?
    Nice pick up. Get rid of the ghost males unless you want to make more ghosts. I'd breed a multiple gene male to your girl or another recessive and do a ghost combo project.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeinDraco View Post
    I just picked up two more Ball Pythons...couldn't pass up the deal.
    Female 800 gram 100% Het Pied (from Justin Kobylka)
    Male 300 Gram 100% Het ied (from BHB)

    these will be ready to breed this fall so I will keep these two until next year
    And definitely keep those. Pieds are always keepers.

    And regardless of what i or anyone else says, go with what you think is awesome. Have some fun with it!
    Last edited by Chris633; 05-23-2012 at 07:10 PM.

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    Re: Help with restructuring my collection

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris633 View Post
    Nice pick up. Get rid of the ghost males unless you want to make more ghosts. I'd breed a multiple gene male to your girl or another recessive and do a ghost combo project.



    And definitely keep those. Pieds are always keepers.

    And regardless of what i or anyone else says, go with what you think is awesome. Have some fun with it!

    LOL looks like we had the same exact ideas. I am keeping a pair of the ghosts to breed back an F1 offspring that should be awesome. they are super nice butterscotch ghosts. and will make even prettier off spring if I breed them back to each other. Thanks for the advice
    Tom

    0.1 Citrus Pewter
    1.1 Butterscotch Orange Ghost
    1.2 Lesser
    0.1 Blonde Pastel
    1.1 Het Pied
    0.1 Het Clown
    1.0 Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 IMG Yellow Belly
    0.1 Pinstripe
    1.6 Normal
    1.0 Green Tree Python
    1.0 Panther Chameleon
    1.1 Red Eye Tree Frog
    1.0 Albino Red Eye tree Frog
    1.0 Waxy Monkey Frog
    1.2 Human Children

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