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    Starter Morph Selection

    Hey Everyone,

    I already have a normal female, and I am wanting to get a male morph to start breeding down the road.

    I am wanting to spend about $400 tops.

    I have found 3 snakes around my price range and have been playing with all kinds of options way down the road with the Genetic Wizard.

    MY choices are

    Pastave
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    Spider Het Ghost
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    Spider Het Albino

    I was just wanting some advice on which would be best and make the most combos.

    I personally love the spiders going to ghosts then all of the Bee morphs. But, that would require me to pick up a pastel.

    I have found the Pastave will have the most options and eventually lead to a Blue Eyed Lucy, and would require me to get spider down the road for all the Bee's and I could have alot more to play with with the Co-Doms.

    Also the Spider het Albino could make some cool stuff and I would still have to buy a pastel down the road to get some Bee's.

    And thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.

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    any of those are great choices. recessive genes can make things complicated especially if you are just starting out, but if you are willing to deal with it, then they can be very rewarding.

    Personally I would go with the Pastave but you should work with whatever you think is cool.
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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    I vote spider het ghost. The pastave does lead to a BEL, but it will also wipe the pattern out of a ton of combos unless you have a blacklight handy. The same (but to a lesser degree) with albinos. I personally think it takes the wow factor out of all but a few combos.

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    Pastave bc otherwise when you breed the male to your normal you will end up with poss hets. Plus pastaves are sweet looking!
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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    You might be able to pick up a male bumblebee for that kind of cash. Haven't priced them lately, but I know they've dropped quite a bit.

    Out of that list, I'd got with the pastave. The others would require you to hold back all the females as 50% possible hets to breed to dad and try to prove them out.

    You could always pick up a baby female spider (or bumblebee) for him on down the road, and make some nice combos there too.
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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    Quote Originally Posted by aalomon View Post
    I vote spider het ghost. The pastave does lead to a BEL, but it will also wipe the pattern out of a ton of combos unless you have a blacklight handy. The same (but to a lesser degree) with albinos. I personally think it takes the wow factor out of all but a few combos.

    Ok, But the first Pastave with a normal would have 25% chance of pastel, so that could branch off into a non wiping of the patterns with that. Then, work on Mojave's, Pastel's, and Pastave's together for Supers and BUL. Just my ideas.

    Seems like the pastave would allow for the most options and only require me to pick up a spider down the road for my FAV Bee's. But, the het ghost can get me some Ghost Spiders and Ghost's so I just have to get a pastel for a bunch of combos.

    I Guess I'm torn between those 2 options. It seems either way i will have to get a pastel or a spider down the road.

    I appreciate your feedback : )

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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadera View Post
    You might be able to pick up a male bumblebee for that kind of cash. Haven't priced them lately, but I know they've dropped quite a bit.

    Out of that list, I'd got with the pastave. The others would require you to hold back all the females as 50% possible hets to breed to dad and try to prove them out.

    You could always pick up a baby female spider (or bumblebee) for him on down the road, and make some nice combos there too.
    Nice points : )

    Also, The best prices I found on Bee's is around $500-1000. I check NERD, kingsnake.com classified, and a bunch of other first page Google results haha.

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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    $500-$1000? I can see NERDs prices being like that, but you might want to double check kingsnake. I just saw a male on there for $350, or do you need a female with size?

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    I'd get the pastave out of those choices. Try to avoid breeding hets to normals if you can.
    Last edited by dart; 05-17-2012 at 01:00 PM.

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    Re: Starter Morph Selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Birt View Post
    Nice points : )

    Also, The best prices I found on Bee's is around $500-1000. I check NERD, kingsnake.com classified, and a bunch of other first page Google results haha.
    Soon there will be plenty of male bee's on the market for $300 to $500 depending on quality.

    I would go with the best example pastel yellowbelly you could find
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