Combo suggestions please

[hungba]

Can you suggest what are some cool mutations (preferably co-dom or dominant) that can be added to a killer bee?

The reason I ask is, at first, I wanted to breed killer bees, so I was planning to get a bumble bee male and breed it to a pastel female. However, my collection has progressed, and I now have two super pastel females that I am raising up (they are also het for genetic stripe). At first I was going to pair them up to a male killer bee, so the odds of getting a killer bee would be much greater than originally planned.

However, getting a killer bee to breed killer bee, seems, well, boring now. So wonder what I should go for to pair with my super pastel het g stripes? May as well get a gene that I don't have yet, instead of getting the killer bee with super pastel I have plenty of pastel. So maybe a bumble bee something, or a killer bee something? What would be a cool combo?

[The Serpent Merchant]

Fire

Yellow Belly

BEL Complex (Mojave/Lesser/Butter)

Recessive:

Clown

Pied

Axanthic

[hungba]

Fire

Yellow Belly

BEL Complex (Mojave/Lesser/Butter)

Recessive:

Clown

Pied

Axanthic

Well I was thinking of the fire too.
I don't want to add anything in the BEL complex because I plan on breeding that male to a lesser as well to get queen bee, and I don't want to end up with cool snakes genetically that I can't tell because they are all white.

Yellow belly, hmm, insteresting, let me look that up.

[The Serpent Merchant]

Personally I would combine the fire and yellow belly... I think that a Killer Bumble Belly Fire would be sick

[satomi325]

You can tell the genetics of a BEL combo. Just look under a black light and see if a pattern appears. Like a Spider BEL will have spider markings under the black light.

Anything fire/yellowbelly is a must have in a collection. It will enhance every morph you have. Also, both fire and yellowbelly have a nice looking Super. (BlackEL and Ivory)

And I agree with the clown as a recessive project. Pastel G-Stripe Clowns would probably be phenomenal. I don't think any ones done that combo yet either.

Are you into darker morphs? What about Black Pastels?

[hungba]

I'm more into brighter colors than darker morphs but I do like black pastels. My friend has a black pastel het albino that he would lend me on breeding loan, but I am more interested in that for another project with my pieds.

Just wondering, has a super pastel fire spider been done yet? If so, how does it look like?

I do agree that Black eyed lucy and Ivory look great, but I really am not too interested in patternless snakes. That's why I don't want to do champagnes.

[Mike41793]

i agree with what aaron and satomi have said. Fire and yb would be my suggestions. They enhance alot of morphs very nicely.

[The Serpent Merchant]

Here is a Fire Bee (Pastel x spider x Fire)

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire-bee/

Not sure about a Super Pastel x Spider x Fire but based off the fire bee my guess is that it would be hot.

[Royal Hijinx]

Calico/Sugar. Even a miss can net you Caliders and Pastel Calicos along with more Bees. Calico Bumblebees are beyond sweet.

[h00blah]

Calico/Sugar. Even a miss can net you Caliders and Pastel Calicos along with more Bees. Calico Bumblebees are beyond sweet.

Correction - he can't make caliders with calico x killerbee, but he can make calico bumblebees! But yes, he can also make pastel calicos and more bumblebees!

I would suggest calico as my #1 suggestion

Can't get enough calibees or pastel calicos! That's the whole reason I got a calico!

If you want to brighten the colors, then I would go fire or YB, or fire YB male! If you want to bring more funkyness to the pattern and work with something relatively different, I would go with a calico - hands down.