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    Russo White Diamond help...

    Could someone please give me some clarification regarding the White Diamonds... I'm looking for a female BEL to add to my collection. Is a Russo different just in appearance, or also in the way it would breed? For example, if I breed her to a lesser platty, can I expect more BEL's, or would I get snakes that look normal, and are het for the White Diamond gene? I apologize if this has been answered, but I couldn't find it.
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    Yes, the russo white diamonds are part of the same complex, just a different allele for the the same gene. Breeding a white diamond to a mojave or a lesser or one of the other Blue Eyed Leucistic mutations will produce a white snake.

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    Re: Russo White Diamond help...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Yes, the russo white diamonds are part of the same complex, just a different allele for the the same gene. Breeding a white diamond to a mojave or a lesser or one of the other Blue Eyed Leucistic mutations will produce a white snake.
    What Mark said. Russos and Mochas are in the same group as mojave/lesser/butter. White Diamond/Super Russo is just a (typically) super clean BEL. I like to think of the Russo het WD as the yellowbelly of the BEL complex, it cleans up the white. Lol
    Last edited by Christopher De Leon; 05-07-2012 at 02:50 AM.
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    Thanks guys. Christopher, so here's my confusion, when you say Russo het WD... So it wouldn't act like any other recessive trait? Say like Clowns, where you need two het clowns to make a visual one. When I plug the WD x lesser into the genetics calculator on world of ball pythons, it comes back with Lemon het leucistic. lol. Or am I just totally not getting something? Pardon my ignorance, I'm new to the breeding side of things.
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    1.0 Pastave
    1.0 Pastel het. Clown
    1.0 Yellowbelly
    1.0 Enchi Pastel
    1.0 Opal Diamond
    0.1 Butter Bee
    0.1 Phantom
    0.1 Russo White Diamond
    0.1 Vanilla
    0.1 Champagne

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    0.1 African Grey



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    Russo is a morph of its own. Russo is het for White Diamond/BEL, just like Mojave/lesser/butter is het for BEL, YellowBelly is het for Ivory, Pastels are het for Super Pastels, etc. Russos are codom, and also known as Lemons or Lemonbacks.

    I dont mean het as in a recessive gene. As you already may know, when a animal is het for a recessive gene,the gene is not visible and the animal appears normal but its carrying the gene nonetheless. Sorry for the confusion, hope i cleared it up. Theres probably an easier way to explain it, but thats the best i can simplify it. Lol
    Last edited by Christopher De Leon; 05-07-2012 at 04:33 AM.
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    Russo are also called russo het lucy or lemon het lucy, not lemonback though, that is a morph that makes black eye lucy.

    I would say white diamonds are far from clean white, everyone I've seen in person had a yellow dorsal stripe, looked more like an ivory with blue eyes

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    Heres info straight from the man that prived out the morph. Hopefully it will answer any questions you may still have.

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/pytho...ythons&UID=115
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