Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 716

0 members and 716 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,905
Threads: 249,106
Posts: 2,572,115
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, Pattyhud
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 42
  1. #11
    Registered User Manasha-Bogo's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-14-2012
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Images: 9

    Re: Strange behaviour while soaking

    Quote Originally Posted by el8ch View Post
    Think we need a background story here to get a better picture of what is going on. what do you mean she is weak? why was she at the vet in the first place? etc....

    No need to soak before a shed. Keep your humidity up to around 60%-70% and give her a water bowl she can soak in if she chooses to. If in fact she does have a rough shed you can soak or do whatever is needed after the fact.

    The over-handling and soaking is most definitley stressing her out.

    Sorry, I should have provided a brief background for anyone who hasn't read my earlier posts.

    Basically she is 6 months old. I got her 3 months ago along with a male (also 6 months old) from a herp store who told me I could house them together. For the last 3 months they had been living together in a large glass tank. He has grown; She has not. They both got mites last month and were treated with Provent-a-Mite (the tank, not them). The two weeks that it took to get the mite situation handled was too much for her. She became very anemic, and I took her to the vet last 10 days ago. The vet ran tests, dewormed her, gave her ivermectin for the mites, and started to tube feed her every 2 days while in their care. I brought her back home from the vets 3 days ago. They told me to soak her daily for 10 minutes. I did it yesterday and today. But her behavior makes my heart skip a beat.

    I took her back to the vet today for another tube feeding and she'll be going back every saturday until either they tell me she doesn't need it anymore, or she strengthens up. She is weak and I can see it now. She always has been weak. (Hindsight, and all that...) but never this weak. She weighed 85 grams today at the vet before they fed her. She was 86 yesterday and 74 grams when I initially took her in 10 days ago.

    So that's about it.

  2. #12
    Registered User Manasha-Bogo's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-14-2012
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Images: 9

    Re: Strange behaviour while soaking

    Quote Originally Posted by AJs Snake House View Post
    Is this the same vet that put oil on her to cure a mite infestation?
    Yep. Point taken. they have many years experience, but I think they are old-school. Even with my rabbits issues I had to find newer treatment information on my own. sigh....

  3. #13
    BPnet Veteran The Serpent Merchant's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-15-2011
    Location
    Orlando, Florida
    Posts
    8,193
    Thanks
    1,504
    Thanked 3,300 Times in 2,344 Posts
    tube feeding? That is possibly the most stressful thing for a snake, is she really that thin to require such extreme measures? Remember BP's can go over a year without eating at all...

    Personally I would be getting a second opinion if not a new vet.
    Last edited by The Serpent Merchant; 05-05-2012 at 04:52 PM.
    ~Aaron

    0.1 Pastel 100% Het Clown Ball Python (Hestia)
    1.0 Coastal/Jungle Carpet Python (Shagrath)
    0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Nergal)

    0.1 Bearded Dragon (Gaius)

    1.0 Siberian Husky (Picard)
    0.1 German Shepherd/Lab Mix (Jadzia)

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to The Serpent Merchant For This Useful Post:

    heathers*bps (05-06-2012),Slim (05-05-2012)

  5. #14
    BPnet Veteran AJs Snake House's Avatar
    Join Date
    03-10-2011
    Location
    Peyton, Colorado, United States
    Posts
    515
    Thanks
    134
    Thanked 113 Times in 89 Posts
    Images: 3
    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2
    Balls:
    0.1 '?? Normal
    0.1 '10 Pastel
    0.1 '10 Yellowbelly het Genetic Stripe
    1.0 '11 Lesser
    1.0 '09 Lesser
    1.0 '11 Fire
    1.0 '07 Spider
    1.0 '11 Black Pastel

    1.0 '81 Husband
    2.0 '03/'10 Offspring
    Gravid with 1.0.1 twins due Oct 9th 2012

  6. #15
    BPnet Royalty John1982's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-13-2010
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    4,009
    Thanks
    2,496
    Thanked 2,962 Times in 1,669 Posts

    Re: Strange behaviour while soaking

    Quote Originally Posted by Manasha-Bogo View Post
    Sorry, I should have provided a brief background for anyone who hasn't read my earlier posts.

    Basically she is 6 months old. I got her 3 months ago along with a male (also 6 months old) from a herp store who told me I could house them together. For the last 3 months they had been living together in a large glass tank. He has grown; She has not. They both got mites last month and were treated with Provent-a-Mite (the tank, not them). The two weeks that it took to get the mite situation handled was too much for her. She became very anemic, and I took her to the vet last 10 days ago. The vet ran tests, dewormed her, gave her ivermectin for the mites, and started to tube feed her every 2 days while in their care. I brought her back home from the vets 3 days ago. They told me to soak her daily for 10 minutes. I did it yesterday and today. But her behavior makes my heart skip a beat.

    I took her back to the vet today for another tube feeding and she'll be going back every saturday until either they tell me she doesn't need it anymore, or she strengthens up. She is weak and I can see it now. She always has been weak. (Hindsight, and all that...) but never this weak. She weighed 85 grams today at the vet before they fed her. She was 86 yesterday and 74 grams when I initially took her in 10 days ago.

    So that's about it.
    Sounds like that vet is kicking her butt.. Do you have pictures of the girl before your first vet visit?

  7. #16
    Registered User Manasha-Bogo's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-14-2012
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Images: 9

    Re: Strange behaviour while soaking

    Quote Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Sounds like that vet is kicking her butt.. Do you have pictures of the girl before your first vet visit?
    I sure do...

    I took pix of her before I put her back in her tub today.

    I've shown this one here before. This is the day I discovered the mite infestation, 20 days ago.




    And these two are from today right after the 2 minute soak.





  8. #17
    BPnet Veteran The Serpent Merchant's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-15-2011
    Location
    Orlando, Florida
    Posts
    8,193
    Thanks
    1,504
    Thanked 3,300 Times in 2,344 Posts
    That snake does not need to be tube fed, tube feeding is only going to make the problem worse by stressing out the snake.

    I strongly suggest that you find a new vet.
    ~Aaron

    0.1 Pastel 100% Het Clown Ball Python (Hestia)
    1.0 Coastal/Jungle Carpet Python (Shagrath)
    0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Nergal)

    0.1 Bearded Dragon (Gaius)

    1.0 Siberian Husky (Picard)
    0.1 German Shepherd/Lab Mix (Jadzia)

  9. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to The Serpent Merchant For This Useful Post:

    CherryPython (05-06-2012),DooLittle (05-05-2012),heathers*bps (05-06-2012),Slim (05-05-2012)

  10. #18
    Registered User Manasha-Bogo's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-14-2012
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Images: 9
    Yea, if it were up to me, I would just leave her alone for 7-10 days and then try to feed her a small hopper and see if she will take it. But I am leery of relying on my own gutt feelings and instincts when it comes to snakes anymore. At least not until I learn more about how to care for them. I'm at the mercy of the vets and what you guys tell me to do.

    I want to err on the side of caution tho. So if it is more cautious to keep tube feeding her a couple more weeks, then I'll do that. But if it's safer to leave her alone and eliminate stressors for a good while to give her a chance to re-coop, then I'll do that.

  11. #19
    BPnet Veteran jbean7916's Avatar
    Join Date
    03-02-2010
    Location
    Kansas City, MO
    Posts
    1,170
    Thanks
    339
    Thanked 283 Times in 245 Posts
    Images: 2
    Quote Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    That snake does not need to be tube fed, tube feeding is only going to make the problem worse by stressing out the snake.

    I strongly suggest that you find a new vet.
    That snake is 5 mos olds and 86g. She needs some sort of intervention.

    She was no longer taking food on her own right?

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
    1.0 Spider "Charlie"
    1.1 Normal "Precious" "Chumley"
    0.1 Pastel "Sweet Dee"
    1.1 Mojave "Stewie" "Little Bit"
    0.1 Lesser "Sally"
    1.0 Pied "Jack"
    1.0 Nile Monitor "Superman"
    0.1 Bearded Dragons "Snookie"
    0.0.1 Sulcuta Tortoise "Kenny Powers"
    1.0 Chocolate lab "Dante"
    1.0 Now snake obsessed boyfriend

  12. #20
    BPnet Veteran The Serpent Merchant's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-15-2011
    Location
    Orlando, Florida
    Posts
    8,193
    Thanks
    1,504
    Thanked 3,300 Times in 2,344 Posts

    Re: Strange behaviour while soaking

    Quote Originally Posted by jbean7916 View Post
    That snake is 5 mos olds and 86g. She needs some sort of intervention.

    She was no longer taking food on her own right?

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
    But tube feeding?

    Has the OP tried assist feeding? Much less intrusive. I can't think of a single situation where tube feeding was the best option.
    ~Aaron

    0.1 Pastel 100% Het Clown Ball Python (Hestia)
    1.0 Coastal/Jungle Carpet Python (Shagrath)
    0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Nergal)

    0.1 Bearded Dragon (Gaius)

    1.0 Siberian Husky (Picard)
    0.1 German Shepherd/Lab Mix (Jadzia)

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to The Serpent Merchant For This Useful Post:

    Slim (05-05-2012)

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1