Champagne Spider or Ivory Pastel

[SurrealisticMe]

I'm a first time BP owner- and I am willing to save and pinch pennies in order to get this one morph that a saw at an expo last year.

It either was a Champagne Spider or Ivory pastel ....Super pastel Ivory?

Basically the snake was ALL CREAM colored - with little dark eyes.
no markings ( or barley there markings )

I've been looking for breeders that have this morph. but haven't had much luck.
Again I'm new to all this HET/ Lesser / Co-dominant (etc) snake language.

I was hoping someone could reccomend a great breeder with fair prices that is either located in California or will ship to it.

thanks in advance!

[OhhWatALoser]

well I got bad news for you, if your sure it was one of those 2 animals, from your description it had to of been the champagne spider and it is known as a lethal combo.

Pastel ivories are white with yellow dorsal stripes... no mistaking that.

sorry

[The Serpent Merchant]

I have had great luck with Justin Kobylka:

http://www.jkobylkareptiles.com/

Some other good breeders are:

Constrictors Unlimited:

http://www.constrictors.com/

Ralph Davis Reptiles:

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/

NERD:

http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/

With all breeders, they have more available than they can post on their sites so if you can't find what you are looking for give them a call. Chances are they have it or know where you can.

[SurrealisticMe]

well I got bad news for you---------from your description it had to of been the champagne spider and it is known as a lethal combo.

Lethal combo...like that particular snake has genetic/health failings?

or as in they are hard to obtain.... ?

I'll post a picture of the snake I was interested in...you know after I looked for this image it may be a Pastel Super Mojave? Oh boy this is confusing...but this is the snake that I thought was the most beautiful thing ive been in a while.... but then again I think I'm just scratching the surface of these beautiful BP morphs.

http://koenigs-python.eu/morphenlist...ermojave-1.jpg

[The Serpent Merchant]

This video should explain things:

[satomi325]

Yup. Lethal means it has healthy failures. They may hatch dead or only live for a very short time.

There are a few solid creamy-yellow snakes out there. Try looking at the morph list to find what you like: http://www.worldofballpythons.com

And some ivorys have a yellow or grey tint to them. They're not always solid white.

[Dragoon]

The vids were neat, especially the side note of the granite woma traits that mixed and cannot be separated anymore, through I am fairly sure I know why too.

[Picadilly Reptiles]

one possiblity is that what you saw was a B.E.L which is a Blue Eyed Lucy. im in love with those snakes, if it had blue eyes then it was a blue eyed lucy, but if it had black eyes then it is a Black Eyed Lucy.