Advice on making an offer

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Hey Guys,

I have a buddy who I met through a sale of het. axanthics i sold last year and it turns out he is selling his whole collection. The only things I am really interested in are:

1.0 Mojave (adult)
1.0 Pinstripe (adult)
0.1 Spider (Adult proven)
0.1 Banded/ Tiger

I am curious about what I should offer him..

Just wondering what you guys would offer? I don't want to offend him but I don't really wanna pay market values either.

Thanks guys,
Chris.

[Wes]

I would offer him about $800-$1000 which is probably about half of market value, which I think would be a fair price for a friend since it also gets rid of 4 at once and he wouldn't have to ship them.

Edit: just realized you are in Canada so my offer might be a little off for what they are worth their.

[Anatopism]

I would be offended if a friend of mine (or anybody) offered me half market value for any of my snakes. I might give them a deal because they are my friend, but if they asked for 50% market, I'd be annoyed.

I think it's reasonable to offer a lower price on a group purchase, and there is the benefit of not needing to ship, but I would still offer a fair value. Think of what's appropriate to offer at shows, and think if that offer to a stranger would be offensive. Don't be rude to a friend. Taking into account the quality of the animals themselves, their ages/breeding potential, and their worth to you.

Check out prices other Canadian breeders have for a reference, kingsnake.com, fauna-classifieds, and factor in differences with USA vs Canadian prices, and make a judgement call.

[Diamond Serpents]

Friend or not, I ask what they are wanting to sell it for. The person always has a set price already thought up.... I ask them what they are willing to let them go for and then negotiate the price from there.

[ClarkT]

+1000 on being annoyed by a 50% offer from a friend! It would be like he's calling me stupid... I agree, I'd probably give a friend a deal, and hope for a deal from a friend, but I wouldn't expect to get or give 50% off.

I'd check KS and fauna for the average listed price, add them up, and go from there. Off the top of my head, I'd say $175 for the 1.0 Mojo, $200 for the 1.0 Pin, and $650 for the 0.1 Spider. I don't know much about banded/tiger prices, though. (of course these would be my locale's prices in Utah, USA) Those prices are what I'd probably get here locally. I would maybe knock off another $100 to get the whole group gone, but that depends on what I could get out of them from someone else...and how soon I would need the money or snakes gone.

[Mike41793]

$900 for the first 3 would be a fair offer imo.
Idk about tiger/banded prices though...

[Annarose15]

+1000 on being annoyed by a 50% offer from a friend! It would be like he's calling me stupid... I agree, I'd probably give a friend a deal, and hope for a deal from a friend, but I wouldn't expect to get or give 50% off.

Ditto here. If he's a friend, I'd just ask what he wants for them. I don't haggle with my friends, and they've pretty much always given me better deals than I would have had the nerve to ask for. I only make offers when it's an animal that I'm positive of the current market value, is just posted through an ad or website (no personal connections), and/or is a bit of an impulse buy (as in, "I really shouldn't get another BP yet, but she's just sooo pretty!"). I also never ask "How low are you willing to go?" I find that question offensive when people ask me, because they almost always still try to offer below that, if I give an answer. Really, you want me to low-ball myself?!

[Tfpets]

Anyone who tells you to make an offer is just begging to be offended,friend or not, IMO! I'm sure they have a price in mind and they should let you know what it is, then you can negotiate from there! If he still insists on an offer, go really low, like stupid low!

[BFE Pets]

With friends i always ask what they want for them. if its too high imo then I tell them what i was thinking and im not upset if they pass on it but the $ is on the table if they change their minds. im thinking a fair price for that group would be in the neighborhood of $800-$1200 usd depending on the quality of the animals and the low end being a friend price and the high side would be selling at a show near me.

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thanks for the advice guys. I almost bought his whole collection but I had some reservations, and we kinda shied out of the deal. I am looking at picking up an adult spider (super high white) proven female. 2000gr. produced 9 eggs for my buddy 2 seasons ago and he didn't breed her this time so she will be ready to hopefully give me 9 this year. He want's 600. I think I'm gonna give him the 6.