Ok. I see what the OP means now.
I didn't read the whole thread because I thought there was only one page. My mistake.
I high respect Robert Seib. Not only as a keeper-breeder, but as a biologist and professor in Herpetology. My female mojave was produced by him. I can't believe that Bill tried to steal from him and say that Robert stole from him. Robert has a lot more higher end snakes than Bill has so Bill's plea makes no sense.
Guess Bill really is a bad guy. That's a shame. My black pastel is a real stunner.
To Zombie, is there anyway you can get your pastel lesser back? Can you file a law suit? I saw pictures of her on your facebook page when you first got her, she is gorgeous.