Starting a breeding project. I would love opinions on morphs to acquire.

[h00blah]

BTW, except for a few, BP breeding is a money losing endeavor, so you might as well make snakes you like.

What are those few doing to make money? lol. I'm too lazy to do it, and I'm almost off work, so I'm going to ask you politely to post a poll to see what breeders on the forum actually profit from breeding BPs, who loses money, and who is just breaking even?

I spent some money on a breeding group, and I'm way negative haha, but I want to produce sweet new morphs so this is just another one of my hobbies that cost money ! Much like how I wanted to collect "homies", model cars, legos, and zippo lighters. I didn't expect anything out of them except for my own enjoyment! At least if I breed ball pythons, I can share my passion with others who love the animals too !

[Slim]

What are those few doing to make money? lol. I'm too lazy to do it, and I'm almost off work, so I'm going to ask you politely to post a poll to see what breeders on the forum actually profit from breeding BPs, who loses money, and who is just breaking even?

I think the BP breeders who are making money are more than hobby breeders. Now, before I get jumped on here, I'm sure there are some hobby breeders out there who are turning a profit, but all things being equal, I still think you have to be set up big, to make big.

I've never posted a poll before...sounds like fun. Look for it in the BP Breeding Section

[reptileexperts]

x3 or 4 on breed what you want. You can breed what you want and still shoot for that new morph or sexy pattern that drives everyone nuts. But, in the end you're the one cleaning up after them, raising them, and potentially keeping holdbacks for future projects. If you get into snake breeding for pure profits, you're already in the hole. It takes a TON of snakes and a TON of buyers to truly yield a good amout of money to start generating profit. If you look at a fixed cost analysis, a small group of snakes can yield you money, but you have to consider it as a variable cost analysis where you have to account for expansion, larger food items, food shortage, more housing, heating going out, vet bills.

That being said, you can't go wrong investing in multi-gene animals for some sweet snakes. The more genes, the less chance of producing normal offspring, not that there is anything wrong with them. . . I'd suggest Enchi and Lesser at the least. Add in some Spider somewhere and throw some sexy super pastel in to wrap it up. But do what you want! I have never cut a profit, but have been able to break even after a few years breeding reptiles! Goodluck.

[BPro927]

I am new as well and maybe I can share some input.
First thing i have Learned that needs to set striaght is Patients!
This is going to take some time and unless you buy multi gene morphs, you will not create something new.

What I want to make for myself is a Super Pastel Orange Ghost Spider.
Has it been done? I do not know. But i have seen a Super Pastel Orange Ghost and all i can say is i do not think i have ever seen so much bright orange!

Right now I have a male HoneyBee (Orange Ghost Spider) I would like to obtain a Super Pastel Orange Ghost. I just recently found out what Co Dom or a spider and pastel is. (Thanks BP.net) Oh and Orange Ghost being res. It is going to take me years to complete this, I would like to try and make from that some Pastel Orange Ghost Spider females and hopefully buy a male Super Pastel Orange Ghost male and try to make me some Super Pastel Orange Ghost Spiders! They will produce an orange that is... i cannot even put it into words!

This website tho is amazing! alot of people have helped me in the 10 days ive been a memeber. So any questions, this is the place to be!!!!

But this is my opinion on what i would like to breed. you will just have to go to as many breeding sites, expos, and forums to hear the latest projects and ideas.
Take your time in choosing the snakes. You might wish you picked something else later on or find a better looking quality of the same morph cheaper.

I am not that experienced at all. I just have a passion and a dream.
Best of luck to you in the up coming years! Hope to talk with you some more!

~Brian :-)

[satomi325]

In addition to the above post, don't cheap out on snakes.
Like, don't hit the best deal for an average looking morph just because you want to save money. Look for the best example of the morph.
I'd rather pay a little more and get 'the perfect example' of the morph. It'll help with producing beautiful babies w/ those traits as well.

[decensored]

starting off your best bet is to get co-dom morphs. Mojave is a great place to start. this is what I would do:

Males:
Mojo - $400
bumble bee - $600


females:
pinstripe - $300
Lesser - $500
black pastel - $500
phantom - $1500

= $3800


I'm not 100% on the price of phantoms right now on the market.. last year I was offered a phantom for $900, so im basing my price assumption loosely on that. leaves you with $1200 so you can try and get one of those males or females het for something (trends right now, probably OG)

meh, not putting a whole lot of research into it but that is what I would do.. make some killer combos there.

[satomi325]

Black Pastels are less than $500. More in the $250-300ish range.
If you want the black pastel gene for $500, get a 2 gene Black Pewter(Black PastelxPastel) or Cinnamon Pewter(PastelxCinny). They're about $500-600 right now.