she gives them fresh veggies/greens 2x a day spot cleans the cage daily + fresh water daily, worms and crickets 3x a week and her thought is its more work than the enjoyment shes getting out of them. it takes her 15 minutes to get the male calmed down when she gets him out to play with him. maybe its just him cuz the female is chilled 24/7 thanks for your imput.