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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by jinx667 View Post
    Adding genes does not appear to help.
    This to me is one of the worst indicators of failure in them. Hope I'm wrong, I like some of you will still give it a try eventually.
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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio View Post
    This to me is one of the worst indicators of failure in them.
    Why would that make any difference...and I'm truly curious to your thoughts, not being combative. Spiders still wobble when combined with other mutations. The thought process behind mutations essentially being "fixed" by entirely separate mutations is baffling to me...but then again, I don't claim to be well versed in genetic mutations or how they work.

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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Why would that make any difference...and I'm truly curious to your thoughts, not being combative. Spiders still wobble when combined with other mutations. The thought process behind mutations essentially being "fixed" by entirely separate mutations is baffling to me...but then again, I don't claim to be well versed in genetic mutations or how they work.
    You are correct...you can not fix a morph just because you mix that morph...I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong...
    For example...Spider and Sable proven to be fatal...if you were to combine an extreme morph....lets say a Spider Pin Lesser Ghost Pastel to a Sable Mojave Yellow Belly Orange Dream and in that clutch any baby that had the Spider Sable gene in the same baby it would not make it....when those two morphs cross the same path results will be the same no matter how many other morphs are present.
    So you can't solve the problem of Desert females throwing infertile eggs just because its crossed into other genes....that gene still plays a roll....
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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Hi,

    There have been some odd anomalies reported at NERD - like a living sable spider and a surviving pearl.

    I haven't heard anthing more about them though so I don't know what the long term result was.
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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    There have been some odd anomalies reported at NERD - like a living sable spider and a surviving pearl.

    I haven't heard anthing more about them though so I don't know what the long term result was.
    At least with the Pearl, isn't that thing so neuro that maybe it should not be alive?

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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
    Why would that make any difference...and I'm truly curious to your thoughts, not being combative. Spiders still wobble when combined with other mutations. The thought process behind mutations essentially being "fixed" by entirely separate mutations is baffling to me...but then again, I don't claim to be well versed in genetic mutations or how they work.

    I was told by a big breeder recently that one of the main problems with the desert gene is them feeding consistently. My thoughts are simple, you mix Spiders into deserts and maybe just maybe you get an animal that feed's and breed's better. In my opinion Spiders are the best feeding and breeding ball pythons hands down, I'm thinking maybe just maybe they can offset some of the desert's weaknesses.
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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio View Post
    I was told by a big breeder recently that one of the main problems with the desert gene is them feeding consistently. My thoughts are simple, you mix Spiders into deserts and maybe just maybe you get an animal that feed's and breed's better. In my opinion Spiders are the best feeding and breeding ball pythons hands down, I'm thinking maybe just maybe they can offset some of the desert's weaknesses.
    I wondered the same thing about the sub-saharan giants.
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    Re: Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    I wondered the same thing about the sub-saharan giants.
    I'm in full agreement with you on this idea also.
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