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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by emeraldwinter View Post
    Agreed x2. It doesn't LOOK like she is burnt but you can't know for sure until it comes off and adding heat to a burn will cause more inflammation, more cell death, larger area of tissue damage, longer healing, etc. etc. Especially this soon after the accident.
    Agreed!! Keep heat off the area. Leaving it alone is your best bet for now.
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    Depending on how calm she is, trimming some of the long strands might not hurt to reduce the risk of them getting caught and ripping off. Otherwise, I think the next shed will be the best medicine.

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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeo123 View Post
    Depending on how calm she is, trimming some of the long strands might not hurt to reduce the risk of them getting caught and ripping off. Otherwise, I think the next shed will be the best medicine.
    Thanks- We did do that. One end was sticking up and I was fearful of that very thing, that she might catch it and tear it off. Its barely noticable on her now, so keeping my fingers crossed it will come off with her next shed.

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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisn123 View Post
    I did something REALLY stupid last night. The probe for the thermostat came loose & fell down from side of tank last night. Medusa kept climbing over it earlier in the evening. So before I went to bed, I decided to use some better hot glue and tack it back up again out of the way.

    She was sound asleep at the front of the tank. I KNOW I should have had her out. I thought of that, Im SO upset that i didn't get her out. but she was sleeping. so I thought I can do this easily and not disturb her.
    I think everyone has addressed the glue issue sufficiently, so I wanted to mention something else I noticed. First, if this occurred just before you went to bed, it's very unlikely that your nocturnal snake was "sound asleep." More importantly, why do you have the thermostat probe inside the tank? It should be outside the actual enclosure for this exact reason (BP climbing on it and knocking it down). Did you mean to say thermometer? And why would either probe be on the side of the tank? Or did you just mean the cord for the thermometer probe?
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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by Annarose15 View Post
    More importantly, why do you have the thermostat probe inside the tank? It should be outside the actual enclosure for this exact reason (BP climbing on it and knocking it down). Did you mean to say thermometer? And why would either probe be on the side of the tank? Or did you just mean the cord for the thermometer probe?
    Well maybe im wrong but this seems to be one of the topics where there is some debate?.? I've read both sides and most opinions told me to put the thermostat probe inside the tank, right on top of the UTH. (Through the glass, the heater itself is NOT inside the tank) but i've heard that putting the probe on the heater outside the tank will give false readings to the warmth, through the glass, & what your snake is feeling. TRUST me, I would have much rather kept it on the outside all together. (especially after this adventure) but I wanted to get the most accurate reading to what she is feeling.
    Yes, it is the cord, that actually runs up the corner of the tank.

    Thanks for the response, i certainly enjoy hearing everyone's opinion.

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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    FYI- the glue spot just popped off today. No sign of damage at all to the skin
    Yay!! we were VERY happy!!

    Thanks for all the support, kind words and help!!

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    That is great news...

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    Super to hear!! I am very happy to hear it! Thanks for letting us know!
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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisn123 View Post
    Well maybe im wrong but this seems to be one of the topics where there is some debate?.? I've read both sides and most opinions told me to put the thermostat probe inside the tank, right on top of the UTH. (Through the glass, the heater itself is NOT inside the tank) but i've heard that putting the probe on the heater outside the tank will give false readings to the warmth, through the glass, & what your snake is feeling. TRUST me, I would have much rather kept it on the outside all together. (especially after this adventure) but I wanted to get the most accurate reading to what she is feeling.
    Yes, it is the cord, that actually runs up the corner of the tank.
    The thermoSTAT probe should be between the glass and the UTH (outside the cage). If your UTH is stuck to the bottom and you can't wedge the probe between them, then you can also use aluminum tape to attach it directly to the underside of the UTH. The thermoMETER probe should be hot-glued on top of the glass inside the tank, directly over the UTH. You then adjust the thermostat setting based on the thermometer's reading. As you already said, what is important is the temp of the glass where your snake can come in contact with it, even if that means the UTH is actually set higher than the hot spot temp (lost heat when going through the glass, air, etc.). Placing your probes like this allows you to monitor the temp of the glass without the risk of your BP knocking the thermostat probe loose and the UTH overheating.

    I'm glad your little one is okay.
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    Re: Im just SICK and need help with BP accident

    Quote Originally Posted by Annarose15 View Post
    The thermoSTAT probe should be between the glass and the UTH (outside the cage). If your UTH is stuck to the bottom and you can't wedge the probe between them, then you can also use aluminum tape to attach it directly to the underside of the UTH. The thermoMETER probe should be hot-glued on top of the glass inside the tank, directly over the UTH. You then adjust the thermostat setting based on the thermometer's reading. As you already said, what is important is the temp of the glass where your snake can come in contact with it, even if that means the UTH is actually set higher than the hot spot temp (lost heat when going through the glass, air, etc.). Placing your probes like this allows you to monitor the temp of the glass without the risk of your BP knocking the thermostat probe loose and the UTH overheating. I'm glad your little one is okay.

    I agree this is a great way to set things up as long as the room is reasonably stable. I don't have many of my snakes in a stable temp room. I have a ten degree shift in room temp nigh to day this time of year it is more than that... With the set up you are describing my hot spots also varied by ten degrees or more. That is FAR FAR too much I found and as is recommended by Dion Brewington the Herpstat designer that a probe in the enclosure allowed the tstat to adjust to the variable room temp and prevent the gain and loss associated with an in direct probe placement. The way you are describing works fine for some but some like me see 80-100º hot spot temps in a 24 hour period, and I am sure you will agree that that is unsafe.

    With the modern hi tek systems out there today there is no logical reason why not to place the probe interior. There are safe non toxic glue systems that well done are strong and immobile. There are protections against over and under temp alarms and if people follow my advise a failsafe that caps the interior temp.
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