Does it matter?

[Mike41793]

Sometimes not everyone uses the same definition of rat sizes...
You guys and the OP may be talking about the same size rat. Without pics we really dont know.

[Skittles1101]

The name of the size of the prey doesn't matter, it hasn't gained anything since February lol....

[Slim]

At 125 grams I would be trying rat pups. My local guy sells rat pups that run from 10 to 18 grams. This snake should be able to handle that with no problems.

Mouse fuzzies simply aren't going to put weight on this animal regardless of how often it does or doesn't eat.

[MissKayla]

Sorry I forgot to mention during the time he wouldn't eat. I kept trying to feed him weekly and it was hoppers. On April 5th is when I tried a fuzzy and he finally ate. So I figured maybe he wasn't eating because the hopper was too big. His first two meals were hoppers. He stopped eating and then his last two have been fuzzy. I still have some hoppers on stand by for him. So im only giving fuzzies because that's what he would eat. Ill upload pics shortly

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Maybe, maybe not. Pics would help. If this guy is as tiny as it sounds fuzzys maybe ok.
@ the OP, the rodent should be as big or slightly larger then the thickest part of the snake.

Fuzzys are in no way appropriate for a 125 grams animal, even an hatchling right out of the egg will eat something larger than a fuzzy they are actually started on hoppers.

To the OP at 125 grams the animal can eat an adult mouse.

The reasons that the animal refuses are likely husbandry related, the best thing to do at this point is to place the animal in something no larger than a 6 quarts tub, providing aspen for bedding and proper temps and humidity, and as equally important you need to limit your handling to a strict minimum until the animal is eating on a regular basis.

Hatchlings and juvies are usually voracious true picky eaters at that age are not the norm, look into your husbandry and feed adequately.

[Rob]

Fuzzys are in no way appropriate for a 125 grams animal

Well seeing as tho they are the only thing the animal will throw back at this time, fuzzys are appropriate. BP feeding isn't one size fits all. Every snake has their own personality and feeding habits. Do I think fuzzys are on the small side for the animal? most likely, but if fed multiple at a time and more frequently I think the snake could grow and gradually be fed a more appropriate sized rodent.
Also yes I agree it could be husbandry related. And if their are mistakes being made there they should be addressed before giving up on a larger rodent being taken.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Well seeing as tho they are the only thing the animal will throw back at this time, fuzzys are appropriate. BP feeding isn't one size fits all.

That's because you do not see the bigger picture which is not about the prey item but the underlying cause.

[Cally95]

Misskayla - can you please give us some specifics on the set up, for example - cage size, hides (1 or 2), temperature and humidity?

[Rob]

not about the prey item but the underlying cause.

Fair enough

[MissKayla]

Misskayla - can you please give us some specifics on the set up, for example - cage size, hides (1 or 2), temperature and humidity?

20L glass tank, 2 hides, and his temps are 91 on the basking side 77 on the cool side. his basking tempt ranges from about 90-92 and his humidity is always been 50% and 60%, right now it is 51%. I use a 24 hrs infared bulb also.

They say a happy ball is a hiding one and he is in his hides more than 90% of the time. heres the pics hes awkward because i took his hide off of him to get the pics lol and i barely handle him so i dont think its too much handling. I buy f/t from petco so fuzzies are consider 5oz or slighter greater and the hoppers are 8oz or slighter greater.