Cinnamon/Black Pastel

[likebull1]

Yea im gonna have to say they look very different.
The black pastels seem to have a more intense black and a busier pattern, while the cinnamon has more blushing and seems to brown out more with age.
Just my opinion.

[MarkS]

Heres my Black Pastel.....Don't think anyone will say she looks like a Cinny

That's a beautiful black pastel, as an example of just how different they are, here is a comparison shot of one of my Cinnamons.



I think they looks like a completely different morph.

[WingedWolfPsion]

They're definitely a different morph--cinnamons, true to their name, are brownish colored.
The pure super forms are also different in color.

The genes are allelic, so a cinnamon is to a black pastel what a mojave is to a lesser platinum--similar, and able to cross to produce an intergraded super form, but definitely not the same morph.

[Danounet]

Sorry but I just have to ask now. Does this mean that the black pastel makes a black panda pied, while the cinny would make a brown panda pied?

[JayCee]

They look different, but so do many of the "pastel" variations that all combine to make Super Pastels.

The Cinnamon and Black Pastel combine to make what appears to be a "Super", which would make one believe they are just different variations of the same, just like pastels.

The clincher would be if a Cinnamon X Black Pastel super were bred to a normal. If they are different, there would be a 25% chance that you would get more all black snakes out of the clutch. If the are the same, just different variations of the same, then the offspring would all appear to be either Cinnamons or Black Pastels.

This probably already been done and someone out there knows for sure the answer to this question.

[snakesRkewl]

They look different, but so do many of the "pastel" variations that all combine to make Super Pastels.

The Cinnamon and Black Pastel combine to make what appears to be a "Super", which would make one believe they are just different variations of the same, just like pastels.

The clincher would be if a Cinnamon X Black Pastel super were bred to a normal. If they are different, there would be a 25% chance that you would get more all black snakes out of the clutch. If the are the same, just different variations of the same, then the offspring would all appear to be either Cinnamons or Black Pastels.

This probably already been done and someone out there knows for sure the answer to this question.

I think it works like a super black pastel and throws all cinny or black pastels, no normals and can't reproduce itself

[satomi325]

This has been a topic that has been going on for a very very long time. People will believe they're the same and others will believe they're different.

Personally, I believe they're different.
They look different to me and their combos look different.


And one feature that makes a black pastel a BP is the black squiggles in the alien head patterns. Cinnys never have this trait. And if you get a cinny with the squiggles, its most likely a poor quality BP.


Here's my bf's BP:




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[crazyj83]

Totally differnt animals...
My cinny..


My Black Pastel..
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Also i've noticed black pastel supers carry a cleaner look to them. But both are awesome to have

[snake lab]

Totally different animals. I dont even know why the argument is still an argument. Both different. Both produce different supers. The panda pied is a super black pastel pied.

[h00blah]

I don't think it's a debate anymore lol. The people who think they're the same are simply incorrect lol. It's no longer personal opinion . I think a high quality / good example of either would cause zero confusion when looking at it lol.

The vote speaks for itself. Majority rules! woo lol