worst bug eyes i've ever seen

[Luke Martin]

Does mojo x mojo cause bug eyes?

I haven't seen bug eyes from Mojave x Mojave, but I have seen tiny eyes from Mojave x Mojave. Also have seen tiny eyes on a Hypo Super Mojave.

[DooLittle]

So butter x mojo should be ok?

[Emilio]

So butter x mojo should be ok?

So far yes did see a Het-russo x lesser bug eyed BEL in daytona though.

I was surprised to say the least.

[hypersomniacjoo]

i want to see these tiny eyes.

[eatgoodfood]

im curious about the tiny eyes as well, especially since im going to be breeding my super mojo het ghost to my mojo het ghost in the fall

[WingedWolfPsion]

Unless it is a gene that only expresses when paired with the Lesser/Butter genes?

Rich stated he's seen normals from Lesser X Lesser pairing that had bug eyes, which suggests that bug-eyes does not have to be paired with the Lesser gene to express, and that it's a separate genetic defect.

Can anyone else confirm? This is rather important...keeping track of bloodlines should allow bug-eyes to be bred out if it is s separate recessive gene.

It's possible Rich uncovered a rare recessive bug-eye gene that is actually not related to the typical lesser BEL bug eye problem, of course, if no one else has ever seen this happen. If so, then bug-eyed BELs probably don't have a genetic defect (in most cases), they're just expressing an issue with the morph itself.

[Solarsoldier001]

Rich stated he's seen normals from Lesser X Lesser pairing that had bug eyes, which suggests that bug-eyes does not have to be paired with the Lesser gene to express, and that it's a separate genetic defect.

Can anyone else confirm? This is rather important...keeping track of bloodlines should allow bug-eyes to be bred out if it is s separate recessive gene.

It's possible Rich uncovered a rare recessive bug-eye gene that is actually not related to the typical lesser BEL bug eye problem, of course, if no one else has ever seen this happen. If so, then bug-eyed BELs probably don't have a genetic defect (in most cases), they're just expressing an issue with the morph itself.

Kinda how spiders have their wobble?

[MarkS]

Personally I think it's like the spider wobble, they all have it to either a greater or lesser degree though many are not really noticeable (unless you compare them to a normal) and they all look better once the snakes head grows. Granted I haven't seen hundreds of Lucys, but that's just my observation. The only ones that I've personally seen that didn't seem to have the issue were on Russo white diamonds.

[Caleyandanthony]

http://fire-ballreptiles.com/images/...terfemale1.JPG

YIKES

thats a good reason to not breed butter to butter!

my pastel female has very big bug eyes they look like there gonna pop out of her head and shes almost to breeding size so i can just imagine how big they were when she was alittle baby

[Solarsoldier001]

my pastel female has very big bug eyes they look like there gonna pop out of her head and shes almost to breeding size so i can just imagine how big they were when she was alittle baby

So does that mean its gotten better over the years?