Thanks for the info kitedemon. Ok just a quick question then, if my accurite probe is on the substrate floor for testing right now, should I try to keep temps around 88 to 90 outside of the hide as well. I know my hide has the uth under it which will give me 92. Or should I not worry to much about what the substrate temps outside the hotside hide will be. Just wondering. Also I am still wondering about the high temp right over the lamp on the climbing branch six inches below reading around 104 or 105. Is that to hot or acceptable. Cant wait to get a bp just want everything right when I do. Thanks.