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    My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    I have a friend who is very experienced snake keeper and he is a magician. That's the only way I can explain it but I want to be a magician too.

    I met him in 2006 when I got my first ball python and he was a local guy here who responded when I asked where to buy rats. I met him and we became friends. At that point he already had rack fulls of snakes of many different kinds and lots of balls, so experienced to the point where, you know how some guys, they kept so many they don't really care so much about the details anymore.

    Since then, I have gotten more ball pythons and currently I have one rack. Most of them eating with no problems whatsoever, and yes I can go through all the details hot end cool end tub size blah blah but I have asked extensively already. There were TWO balls that refused to eat when I got them, everyone else ate fine and grows fine. The first ball I got that did not eat, I asked him and after a few weeks of struggling with it, he decided to "try" for me. I gave him the snake and he let it settle at his place for two days and then sent me pictures of the snake eating and full stomach the whole series of pics just to "rub it in" that my snake had no problem. Now fast forward a few months, ANOTHER snake I got refused to eat. I tried live, I tried f/t, I tried braining, chicken soup, tease feeding, mice, rats, HECK HE himself came to my house to try to feed it several times and it did not eat. So I said why don't I give you the snake for a few weeks and see if it eat. I gave it to him last night, and he didn't even wait for it to settle down just fed it at his place and it ate TWO RATS!

    So natural conclusion there is something about his place that is different from mine so he came over to my house again and inspected my rack, tested all the temperatures everything and he said there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with my set ups! I asked him many times he has been to my place twice to inspect and he said that nothing is wrong. And I asked him so what did he do differently than I did and he said nothing he just offered the darn rat and it ate.

    By the way, he has kept snakes for like a decade and he told me that he has NEVER had ANY snake go off feed AT ALL, EVER. Even the most experienced keepers like top breeders will sometimes have snakes that go off feed, but he, has NEVER had one refuse any meal.

    So the only conclusion is that he knows MAGIC. He denies it and says he doesn't know magic but I think he does and is hiding something so I am asking here. How do I learn MAGIC?
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    Same substrates, hides, temps ,humdity?

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    Re: My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilecam View Post
    Same substrates, hides, temps ,humdity?
    For the second snake, same box as what i use in my rack. The first one he just used a "critter keeper". Same substrate newspaper. Same water bowl. As far as humidity and temps, I didn't ask him what his humidity and temps are, but I asked him to check mine and he came to my house twice and said they are spot on.

    He doesn't even USE hides for ANY of his snakes.

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    I have a contract around here somewhere you'll need to sign.

    Of course you'll be signing it in blood, and I do get to keep your soul, but those are just mere details....
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    Re: My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    I have a contract around here somewhere you'll need to sign.

    Of course you'll be signing it in blood, and I do get to keep your soul, but those are just mere details....
    Sign for what? I already have a wizard friend!

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    Re: My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    Quote Originally Posted by hungba View Post
    I already have a wizard friend!
    Then it would seem you've already answered your own question. See what your wizard friend will take in trade...
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    By the way I didn't even mention, I had one a few years ago, that only ate live. I gave it to him to try and immediately it ate frozen thawed.

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    That's pretty crazy, lol. I'm apparently miracle-gro for my snakes XD but I still have problem feeders occasionally. My only guess is that your house is maybe busier/noisier? If this wizard's place is significantly quieter that could explain why they settle down so quickly with him after giving you trouble.... Or he's just a wizard.
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    Re: My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Then it would seem you've already answered your own question. See what your wizard friend will take in trade...
    LOL but he denies it! He says he is not a wizard!

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    Re: My friend is magic and I want to be magic too!

    Quote Originally Posted by LotusCorvus View Post
    That's pretty crazy, lol. I'm apparently miracle-gro for my snakes XD but I still have problem feeders occasionally. My only guess is that your house is maybe busier/noisier? If this wizard's place is significantly quieter that could explain why they settle down so quickly with him after giving you trouble.... Or he's just a wizard.
    Well I don't know but there are more people living in his house and more animals there than in mine. I live alone, although there are other animals in the house but they are in their own cages and except for one none are in the snake room.
    Even then, I would think that there is something more to just quieter surroundings and letting them settle down more because he literally took a snake I had that was off feed for 3 months now, took it home in a little box I put it in, put it in his rack and fed it immediately with no settle in period and it ate two rats. Although I am aware that subtle things affect snake eating behaviour, for example, I had an albino that would not strike when I had a small light on (so I can at least see), and I turned it off with the rat still hanging there and BOOM. Sometimes these things are so subtle we can't even know them or find them. He says that he, himself, never cares about day or night though he just "feeds when he feels like it".

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