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    Ralp Davis Reptiles Phantom?

    I got a male phantom from RDR a couple months ago and he's an absolute pest! ALWAYS hissing and a TERRIBLE eater. I have MANY ball pythons and have NEVER had problems like this. When I got him I set him up in the rack (tub) and let him get accustomed to his new surroundings for about a week. (he pooped in the bag when he arrived so i knew he had eaten recently anyways) After that week I offered him food. When I went to go grab him out of his tub he started hissing at me and bit me. When he eats, he always shows MUCH interest in the rodent but continues to strike at it with no avail. since I have gotten him he's eaten about three times (i have had him for two months)

    every time you pull out his tub he starts hissing loudly. this is all pretty new to me considering none of my other ball pythons are this defensive/freaked out. he's still a baby but i have other hatchlings smaller (and some the same size as him) that don't do this. the phantom is between 250-275 grams.

    and i don't see how any of this could be stress related considering he's in a tub with a hide on unprinted newspaper. if anyone has any insight to this problem i would love to know. (or if anyone has a phantom or any other snake from ralph that had or are having this problem)

    let me know! thanks.

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    My Phantom is fine, but she did not come from RDR. I would just leave him completely alone other than to pick up mess or refill water for a week and see if that improves his temperament. Make sure he has hides and all that good stuff. It may just take time.


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    Is it possible that he is blind?
    This is a complete shot in the dark but it would explain almost everything...
    1.0 normal bp

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    They can be jumpy when they're young. I have a 190 gram BP right now that tries to take my face off everytime I have to handle him for husbandry and such. I have no doubt he will be better with time and as he grows larger.
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    Re: Ralp Davis Reptiles Phantom?

    Quote Originally Posted by adam_c View Post
    I got a male phantom from RDR a couple months ago and he's an absolute pest! ALWAYS hissing and a TERRIBLE eater. I have MANY ball pythons and have NEVER had problems like this. When I got him I set him up in the rack (tub) and let him get accustomed to his new surroundings for about a week. (he pooped in the bag when he arrived so i knew he had eaten recently anyways) After that week I offered him food. When I went to go grab him out of his tub he started hissing at me and bit me. When he eats, he always shows MUCH interest in the rodent but continues to strike at it with no avail. since I have gotten him he's eaten about three times (i have had him for two months)

    every time you pull out his tub he starts hissing loudly. this is all pretty new to me considering none of my other ball pythons are this defensive/freaked out. he's still a baby but i have other hatchlings smaller (and some the same size as him) that don't do this. the phantom is between 250-275 grams.

    and i don't see how any of this could be stress related considering he's in a tub with a hide on unprinted newspaper. if anyone has any insight to this problem i would love to know. (or if anyone has a phantom or any other snake from ralph that had or are having this problem)

    let me know! thanks.
    Your snake is stressed out. Try putting him in a smaller tub (6 quart), and make sure that all of the sides are covered except the front. Don't attempt to handle him at all until he starts eating again.

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    Have you contacted RDR to discuss the matter? If not, I'd go that route first......
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    What size tub is he in? Even though you say he's not, it sounds like he's stressed.

    Leave him alone for a week.

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    Re: Ralp Davis Reptiles Phantom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    Your snake is stressed out. Try putting him in a smaller tub (6 quart), and make sure that all of the sides are covered except the front. Don't attempt to handle him at all until he starts eating again.

    Good luck.
    x2 Put him in as small a tub as you can, and try switching him to aspen bedding. It stays "fluffy" and allows them to feel more hidden than newspaper. Then leave him alone until he settles down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trochu View Post
    Have you contacted RDR to discuss the matter? If not, I'd go that route first......
    I don't really see what RDR would/could/should do about it, especially months later, unless it's just to compare husbandry. These are snakes, not puppies that we "tame" to our liking.
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    While I agree with the above suggestions, some snakes are just nasty pains in the rear.

    I've got a spider who is FINALLY calming down after 6 months of unrelenting anger, lol. And as for picky eaters, I've got my fair share. I've got a one who will almost toy with her food; she defensive strikes a few times, then finally attacks and coils.
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    Stop watching him eat.....he is defensive striking becasue he is stressed out....he is 'worried' that is he strikes and coils, you are going to do something to him......alot of hatchlings do it.......put in hopper, or rat pup, whatever you are feeding, close the tub/tank and walk away....leave him in the dark......give him 10-15 minutes.....I would be willing to bet he will eat....just doesn't need you hovering over him, stressing him out......

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