OK so Het Caramels Produce viable large clutches right? And the Visual males breed fine. So its the Visual Caramel females to stay away from? So why are visual female Caramels still priced at what they are and not be off topic the Desert Females as well. How is there a large value on female animals that don't produce viable or normal clutches? I mean I don't mean to beat a dead horse but 1,000+ for a Desert female that will not produce or 450 for visual Caramel Female. It seems crazy that these are the asking prices. Ok enough of a rant. BTW I love caramels and Deserts not taking anything away from them or the people who work with them. Kinks and all I think that the caramel for being a single gene animal is spectacular looking animal.