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Thread: Hides? 2 or 1?

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    Completely depends on the snake, and your set up.

    For any glass tank or PVC cage set up I would offer two hides, but for every BP that never shows it's face outside of a hide, I'm sure someone will have a story about a BP who thinks it's a corn snake.

    I would also offer two hides in a tub set up, depending on where the tub is located (high traffic or low traffic area) and how clear the plastic is.

    For racks, many keepers don't use any hides at all, though I do offer two and they both get utilized. I haven't done any experimentation on reducing the number of hides in my rack tubs, because it's not really any harder to leave them in there than to take them out, and they do seem to bet used.

    Should they be identical? Yeah, it makes sense to me that they should, but I'm sure there are snakes out there who wouldn't show a prefrence. I only use RBI hides, so all mine happen to be identical.
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    Re: Hides? 2 or 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by ExotixTowing View Post
    I have taken the cool side hide out of my Normals tank.. He never used it always burrowed next to it, He prefers the drift wood hide in the middle of the tank, but uses the hide on the hotside.

    While I am not sold on the necessity of Identical hides Hot/Cool it seems to be the general consensus.

    Some in tubs have one hide some have none.

    I think it depends on your snake to be 100% honest
    I have identical hides in the tanks and for my babies but the adult het clown females and the het clown male either have one or none.

    The male rarely went inside his and just hid behind it where he looked cramped up and Norma the normal doesn't want to be under a hide at all.

    They're all in blacked out tubs though so maybe that's enough for them.

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    thinking about Natural habitat... Does the Snake ever spend time in anything that is the same ?? Wouldn't you want to offer something that is more realistic to the Snakes natural habitat ??
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    They are regularly found in rodent burrows and termite mounds. Most of them are similar.
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    Re: Hides? 2 or 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by ExotixTowing View Post
    thinking about Natural habitat... Does the Snake ever spend time in anything that is the same ?? Wouldn't you want to offer something that is more realistic to the Snakes natural habitat ??
    The reason for this in captivity, is if they prefer one hide to the other, they may not thermoregulate. If say they don't like the hide that's on the hot side, or vice versa. They may stick to one hide because they prefer it, even if its too hot/cold.

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    Re: Hides? 2 or 1?

    We provide multiple hides for any snake in an actual enclosure-style cage, but for snakes in racks hides are only offered if the animal doesn't seem to be feeding readily or is otherwise indicating that it is less than happy with its enclosure. I follow this same formula for my snakes at home, and it is extremely effective.

    For folks with new snakes, or problem feeders, using multiple hides is a good idea. I would actually recommend trying different hides until you see what your snake prefers - if it seems to be exclusively using one hide, try replacing the other hide with one identical to the hide the snake is using. Treat it like a science experiment, and change one variable at a time.

    The nice thing about ball pythons is that once you get your snake(s) dialed in, they are not generally too complicated after that. Other species, especially more active species or more sensitive species, can benefit from multiple hiding places to choose from.

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    mine hardly ever uses the hide on his cold side except for as a bathroom...hes always in hot hide or in the middle of the cage in his moist hide

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