Yea i thawed them in warm water. (Still in the bag so they didnt get wet). Then hit it with the blowdryer til the head was 102F. I think the problem is like i said i fed the live first thinking it would stimulate his appetite but it ended up making him full i think bc it was too big. Now that i think about it the rat was more like 75% of the size of her normal rats... I shoulda weighed it, lol now i think of that! Im gunna wait 2 weeks to feed her so shes extra hungry then if she doesnt pound it right away im gunna leave it in the tub overnite like you said.