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    Thank you to all for the input I have a lot to consider but I think I have enough input to make a decision. Everyone has been a big help!
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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    Yeah thats great advice and I have started doing that. I think I figured out what I want:
    Male Pastel
    Female Pastel
    Female Spider
    Female Mojave
    Female Pinstripe

    These should produce a wide spectrum of good morphs.
    This isn't a bad list of females to start with but since you have a $2000 budget I would upgrade the females to 2 gene girls. And as others have stated you don't need a male right now since you are buying hatchling females.
    If I was you this is what I would get.

    Female Super Pastel
    Female Spinner
    Female Black Pewter
    And then something like a Female Hypo or Fire.

    Then start saving again for a nice male in a year or so.
    Once you have these females started and getting close to breeding size find a nice Mojave Lesser BEL or even a Pastel Mojave Lesser BEL male.
    This would really open up the doors to producing a large variety of nicer and higher end babies!

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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs View Post
    This isn't a bad list of females to start with but since you have a $2000 budget I would upgrade the females to 2 gene girls. And as others have stated you don't need a male right now since you are buying hatchling females.
    If I was you this is what I would get.

    Female Super Pastel
    Female Spinner
    Female Black Pewter
    And then something like a Female Hypo or Fire.

    Then start saving again for a nice male in a year or so.
    Once you have these females started and getting close to breeding size find a nice Mojave Lesser BEL or even a Pastel Mojave Lesser BEL male.
    This would really open up the doors to producing a large variety of nicer and higher end babies!
    Maybe I will do a mixture of both get a spinner and maybe a fire and then a spider and a mojave.... I am still thinking on it but I just purchased a female pastel already. what combos make the spinner and the fire? Im still learning all this. And you mention "BEL" im not familiar with that term if you could explain that too plz! thanks for the input!
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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    Maybe I will do a mixture of both get a spinner and maybe a fire and then a spider and a mojave.... I am still thinking on it but I just purchased a female pastel already. what combos make the spinner and the fire? Im still learning all this. And you mention "BEL" im not familiar with that term if you could explain that too plz! thanks for the input!
    Spinner = Spider + Pinstripe
    Fire is a base morph
    BEL = Blue Eyed Leucistic (An all white snake with blue eyes. It can either be a Super Butter/Super Lesser/Super Mojave/ ButterxLesser/ButterxMojave/LesserxMojave)

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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Spinner = Spider + Pinstripe
    Fire is a base morph
    BEL = Blue Eyed Leucistic (An all white snake with blue eyes. It can either be a Super Butter/Super Lesser/Super Mojave/ ButterxLesser/ButterxMojave/LesserxMojave)
    Wow theres a lot I dont know! Are there any publications that can really help me fully understand ball python breeding and the different morphs and genetics? Or does everyone just learn as they go? I cant imagine thats all but any pubs would be helpful. Thank you!
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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    Wow theres a lot I dont know! Are there any publications that can really help me fully understand ball python breeding and the different morphs and genetics? Or does everyone just learn as they go? I cant imagine thats all but any pubs would be helpful. Thank you!
    One of the best places to see all the different morphs and combos of them, plus what will be the outcome of any breedings is
    http://worldofballpythons.com
    Check out both the morph list and the genetic wizard.

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    Re: What types should a beginner breed with first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    Wow theres a lot I dont know! Are there any publications that can really help me fully understand ball python breeding and the different morphs and genetics? Or does everyone just learn as they go? I cant imagine thats all but any pubs would be helpful. Thank you!
    Here's a good site to look at the different morphs and combos:
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

    This can calculate different genetic combos for you:
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

    Some breeding basics:
    http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

    And if you don't know how to calculate recessive genes percentages, this will help:
    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Here's a good site to look at the different morphs and combos:
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

    This can calculate different genetic combos for you:
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

    Some breeding basics:
    http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

    And if you don't know how to calculate recessive genes percentages, this will help:
    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html
    Thanks so much you have been a big help!
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    Good night Chesty, wherever you are....


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