Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
Are you suggesting that because we disagree on probe placement for a tub that it equates to me using cheap supplies and and having a disregard for my animal's welfare? Is that really what you meant to say here?
Anyone serious into Reptiles and breeding 9 times out of 10 will NOT have the probe inside the enclosure.

I am serious and use interior and exterior I am saying there is other ways of running probes. There is not only one method and with proper safe guards there is such a low risk that it is safe.


Let me start over it is too personal and that is at least partly my fault. Sorry for that again.


I KNOW you care about your animals and I am 100% certain that you do the very best for them and money is not the issue behind what you are doing. I never intended to say other wise, it did come out that way. I am tired and over worked and not writing clearly.

I am saying nothing more than this there are other methods of doing things other than the way you are suggesting. With the safe guards I have suggested it is just as safe as the placement you use (not for racks however) No probe can be poorly fastened and easily moved in any arrangement. I would also suggest that a failsafe t-stat is not something that should be thought of as optional it is a valuable part of a safe set up and will go a long way to prevent problems.

the cord snide comment was a cheap shot and I regret it. Sorry for that. I felt attacked personally and responded in kind.

I do retro engineering of products to re-purpose them. My comments about a cord are not about the load but about the possibility of an arc at the connection to the flexwatt. I agree lamp cord is fine as long as the connection is armoured well and in a position where the tub cannot repeatedly run over it. This is often not the case, the connection is often in a place where it is exposed and can be worn. The nature of flexwatt also lends to poor connections due to the fact it does flex. I have tested and watched lamp cord burn when exposed to an arc at a connection. Heater cable does not burn easily or for long unlike lamp cord. Properly done and carefully checked over it is unlikely to cause an issue. I feel that heater cord adds a small margin for safety that is not afforded by lamp cord. I also know that well done and carefully maintained there is low risk on an arc. Cord choice or probe placement properly done pose low threat, improperly done both are a risk. This is the point I was clumsily trying to make.

There are many ways of doing things, and carefully thought out, and with proper forethought, done very safely.