Fire?

[tikigator]

Hey everyone, I bought a few males in a package deal locally (the owner had passed away, very sad tragic situation) and I took the last 5 snakes he had. This was an experienced breeder so I hate to question the morphs....but since I cannot speak with the owner because he passed away, and it is not known where the individual snakes came from I thought I would post here to get everyone's opinion. I will be posting two--this thread is for the Fire. I will also be posting a pic of a supposed Black pastel. In addition to these 2 snakes I also purchased a male pin (very nice looking), a male spotnose, and a male mojo (nice example of a mojo)....so these were sold to me as morphs NOT normals.

I know morphs can greatly vary in color...as well as quality...so he very well may be a fire. I have never had a fire, and I guess when saw him in person he was just a bit darker than I expected a fire to be...however he does appear a great deal lighter than my normals. Thanks for your opinion...and as a side note, I do understand the only way to prove a morph is to breed it....which I am doing. I bred this Fire to 2 normals so we shall see what he throws




With normal female


with dark normal female (in shed)


next to normal (het pied)

[MrBig]

I'd say not a fire. He lacks the creamy color and the head stamp that is atypical to the Fire morph. My Fire male, there is no mistaking what he is.

[Balls Out Morphs]

I hate to say it but this is another normal like the "black pastel".

[satomi325]

I'm going to say normal again as well... It lacks the blushing and flames fires are characteristic as well, but it's hard to tell w/o a side shot.

Can you get a side and belly shot?

[crazyj83]

Hey sorry to say but its not a fire..pretty snake though. Heres my Fire for reference...
.. Good luck with them none the less..

[tikigator]

I'm going to say normal again as well... It lacks the blushing and flames fires are characteristic as well, but it's hard to tell w/o a side shot.

Can you get a side and belly shot?

Yeah I can get a side and belly shot tonight when I get home.


Thanks for the responses...don't think I wasn't expecting it....if I really thought he was a fire I wouldn't have posted. I have seen quite a few photos of fires and when I saw this snake in person I was just surprised because he was much darker than I had expected a fire to be.

But when someone sells you a snake as a proven fire, and this snake was in the collection of a morph breeder for 3 years....I sort of figured it was a worth a shot in the dark thinking maybe he was just a low quality fire.

[python_addict]

hes bright though but not a fire hes very nice looking

[greghall]

No fire there sorry