Quote Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
Who says that? I think most people have resigned to the fact that if they choose to breed spiders and spider combos, then neurological issues are sure to come with that choice. They eat fine, drink fine, poop fine, and shed fine, so who's to say that a little wobble or corkscrew make them unsuitable for breeding. It's not as if we're breeding spiders to repopulate balls in the wild. If bred in captivity and kept in captivity, what is the issue?
Of course not. It's the same as the goldfish that have HUGE eyes sticking out of their head.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...58&pcatid=2758
There are also 'bubble cheek' goldfish that have huge pouches under their eyes.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65304419@N00/3109378507

I shouldn't even have to describe it, but obviously, the huge eyes and cheek pouches can be damaged and even POP. Yes, they can break open, and the fish will be left swimming around, until it dies, with broken loose skin from the huge pouches. It can happen from sharp rocks in the tank, the filter intake, or other fish biting. Do YOU think that's good? They die if that happens to them. People are still breeding them, saying the same thing as you are about spiders.
That is the issue.
I know that goldfish are not ball pythons. People use the same excuses for breeding animals that are messed up.
Not a single person has been able to tell me why them seem to have to breed spiders. Whether you like what I say or not, if someone has the will power, they can easily avoid buying spiders, and like people always say about breeding ball pythons, if you aren't patient or don't have enough self control, you shouldn't be doing it.

Seeing something day after day makes it seem a lot better than it is. I brought it up in another thread. Reptile vets are normally surprised that people are still breeding spiders, even after they know that they have problems. The fact that people back each other up doesn't help. One post with someone saying 'spiders aren't bad. Just buy what you like' gets thanked 10 times.
The single comment made by another person, other than mine, saying 'why do people still breed them', doesn't get thanked, it just gets tons of negative replies talking about how colorful the combo morphs are with spider.

How could we live without it?

I know!!!
Pretend it's not there. How hard is that for people?
I guess it's pretty hard, based on all of the impulsive-purchases and people regretting that they bought the baby retic at an expo, then releasing it.

People need self control. I know there are people that think before they buy a spider, but when they are hearing other people constantly talking about how good it is, the decision is biased.

There are dog breeds that can only give birth through c-section. Is it going to be that bad with ball pythons in years?