Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

[ArtisanSerpent]

Can't you get babies out of the Desert females. I love this morph, its in my top 5! But I want to know if they are going to produce or if they can.

[Mike41793]

From what ive heard it hasnt been done...yet lol.

[mainbutter]

Hasn't been done yet, but it's hard to prove a negative.. The terrible thing is that if they ARE infertile 100% of the time, we won't ever KNOW the truth.

[snake lab]

It has been worked with alot longer then alot of people think. And it doesnt look good. I just dont understand why there is still a price tag like there is on desert females. They still hold around 1000 dollars which is nuts for an animal that cant breed

[Kev.K]

I was offered a nice 600g desert female, for a low price. I still declined. I wouldn't have a male either.
It's a shame as they make great combos.

[mainbutter]

It has been worked with alot longer then alot of people think. And it doesnt look good. I just dont understand why there is still a price tag like there is on desert females. They still hold around 1000 dollars which is nuts for an animal that cant breed

Boelens sell for way over that, and while they "can" breed, so far your average boelens in captivity won't successfully breed.

There is value in non-breedable animals for the sake of the enjoyment of keeping them.

[Kev.K]

Boelens sell for way over that, and while they "can" breed, so far your average boelens in captivity won't successfully breed.

There is value in non-breedable animals for the sake of the enjoyment of keeping them.

They are my fav snake.
I think this is a unfair comparison though. There is a big difference between a snake that is infertile, and one that doesn't breed due to being in captivity. Boelens have very specific requirements which most keepers can't replicate.

[Royal Hijinx]

Boelens sell for way over that, and while they "can" breed, so far your average boelens in captivity won't successfully breed.

There is value in non-breedable animals for the sake of the enjoyment of keeping them.

There is a difference in a entire breed that cannot reproduce, and a color morph of a breed that generally has no problem reproducing. IMO the price of Deserts reflects folks trying to get money back on an investment in a essentially stalled/failed project. Lots of folks may disagree with that, but that is how I see it.

With a male, you will get at least one more generation, but females are hood ornaments as far as breeding goes, so you have to then decide how much is a pet worth. The rightful disparity in price is emerging, but I see females dropping way down. You can throw as many other genes in there as you like but it does not seem to help.

[RobNJ]

I was offered a desert female in a trade that was in my favor monetarily speaking, and as much as I love desert combos, I couldn't bring myself to take the offer due to what's going on with the females. Seems like deserts have been around long enough that if the females are going to breed, they would have by now.

[LotsaBalls]

It has been worked with alot longer then alot of people think. And it doesnt look good. I just dont understand why there is still a price tag like there is on desert females. They still hold around 1000 dollars which is nuts for an animal that cant breed

Most that I see listed are even above $1000. But are they selling is my question. People do buy pets for more than that all the time with no plans to ever breed them.

Maybe the flatline is a super desert?