Pet store breeder is what I was told. Maybe he was embarrassed, but he was certainly afraid of the 'mean' one. I weighed them all tonight. All are 2009 models except for the spider, he is 2010. Normal Male his childs pet=1350. Female normal=1150, Spider=1000, male Normal he said did not eat for a year=900, male normal that is supposed to be mean=700 grams. The childs normal and the 900g male were both in 28 q tubs. All the other were in 16q tubs.