The bottom line to this whole debate is what would the paying vendor or breeder be willing to do. And i can tell you as a breeder and show vendor i wouldnt care one bit what snake had a ribbon. Yes it could be a selling point to some but anyone that knows what they are looking for in a morph can make up their minds when purchasing any animal. If you dont know what to look for or the signs of illness or mites then your not educated enough to be making the purchase. I take a great deal of caution when i vend a show. All my displays are over heat, hand sanitizer is a must, i never handle other vendors animals, anyone working my tables have a great deal of experience in the animals we sell. I dont sell a single animal on my tables that i dont know about. Having the knowledge to answer a potential customers questions correctlly is paramount. Having a ribbon dog and pony show is just a sideshow we dont need. Plus i dont need a judge giving me props or downgrading my animals that i put so much time and money into producing based on an oppinion. Id rather leave that up to my customers. Rhasputin you said it yourself, you wish you knew what you were looking at to appreciate the animal. If you dont know what your looking at then i dont expect you to understand my point as a long time breeder in regards to a ribbon show. As it may work with animals with pedigrees and breed standards it wont work with the snake world.