If you look closely in the first pic of him, you can just see the white speckling on his side. Otherwise if you go strictly off his topside pattern, I'd have said spinner too. He's a nice looking snake, like his pattern a lot. The black is a little bolder than what a spinner usually is and his coloring is more even throughout. I thought it was a spinner too when I first glanced at it...can't see his white very well in the first pic and only just in the second, if you're really looking for it.