Thanks everyone, he's going up to rat weaners soon, also I think it's down to me the handling, I kinda of lift him out, and place him on the bed, sit next to him, let him explore then pick him up again before be falls of the other side! So last night I let him do that before I picked him up and let him explore me, my hands and arms, so think this is what I'll do from now on and hope he becomes less timid.