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    Basically I'm thinking of an all natural solution for mites, ticks, and another bug like creatures. If it works like I think it might it would be safe enough to use directly on the snake as a preventative measure, or to be used on every received snake.


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    You mean something like reptile relief?

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    Two words...Test Patch.

    For a topical treatment, no matter what the treatment is, always start with a test patch. And, if you want to try it on yourself first, I say rock and roll! If it irritates you, I wouldn't let it get within 100 feet of your snakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    You mean something like reptile relief?
    I guess kinda, but that stuff is still using a pesticide.


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    If you do a lot of looking there is a large amount of data on pesticides done on brown snakes. They were trying to kill them with spraying but the research is sound, just backwards I would look for this data and then start there. I hope you have a background in chemistry as the things you don't know CAN hurt you.

    Testing on yourself may or may not have the desired results look at P-A-M it is looking more and more that Permethrin is a human carcinogen, but there is no evidence that it has any carcinogenic effects on snakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    If you do a lot of looking there is a large amount of data on pesticides done on brown snakes. They were trying to kill them with spraying but the research is sound, just backwards I would look for this data and then start there. I hope you have a background in chemistry as the things you don't know CAN hurt you.

    Testing on yourself may or may not have the desired results look at P-A-M it is looking more and more that Permethrin is a human carcinogen, but there is no evidence that it has any carcinogenic effects on snakes.
    I hear you. But the stuff I'm looking at is all natural extracts. In fact for MSDS or any other public docs I need only need to list proprietary herbal extract. Just think it would be a good idea to have something purely green, that at worse is a mild irritant, and that can be used with a semi cavalier attitude. Think I'd be able to get mites in a secure manner to test on?


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    Permethrin is an extract of chrysanthemum. Natural and herbal does not mean safe. Be careful, I work with chemicals everyday a 'semi cavalier attitude' is never going to be a good idea, people are dumb with chem and "if a little works more will be better" is not going to be trained out of people at all.

    Mites need a host. You would have to infect a snake.

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